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I generally avoid R&P as I'm somewhat conflict averse. But what I don't understand is why so many of you keep engaging. Either Drazzil is a troll and you're sport, or he has a seriously warped view of reality and you're unlikely to change his mind. (Presumably a combination of both.) Though I guess everyone takes the bait sometimes. But calls for him to seek therapy are impractical at best, and come off as callous regardless of how appropriate they may feel after years of reading his posts. Maybe someone wants to help him find an income-adjusted therapist in his area (if he's willing), or some kind of social program? Otherwise it's just telling an oblivious person they're crazy. I've tried that with my mom for years. It doesn't work. "But we've been trying to talk sense into him for years." I guess I admire your persistence? But I wouldn't want the stress in my life.

Drazzil, I wish you the best. This must be fulfilling for you on some level. But with the richness of this community, somewhat narrow political opinions aside, I can't help but think it would be far more rewarding if you debated in good faith.

But I guess if I keep reading I'll become just as cynical as the rest of you. Anyway, that's my one genuine R&P post for this quarter.

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Isgrimnur wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:05 am
hepcat wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:56 am According to you, everything is a giant criminal fascist organization. ... Knights of Columbus.
He might have a point on that one. :wink:
You’re confusing the Knights of Columbus with the Knights Templar again, aren’t you? Common mistake though. The Knights Templar did favor the Fez as headgear too.
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Sudy wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:18 pm
But I guess if I keep reading I'll become just as cynical as the rest of you. Anyway, that's my one genuine R&P post for this quarter.
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Keep punching down on people who may be legitimately disturbed and you'll get more. Or you won't, because I'm conflict averse.

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Sudy wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:23 pm Or you won't, because I'm conflict averse.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Also....
Sudy wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:18 pm But calls for him to seek therapy are impractical at best, and come off as callous regardless of how appropriate they may feel after years of reading his posts.
Sudy wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:23 pm Keep punching down on people who may be legitimately disturbed and you'll get more.
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I will say this once more and then shut up regarding Drazzil's supposed political position: I think he's spot on about ONE thing...that there is a large swath of the population that feels 'left behind' either economically, socially, politically or all three.

Hillary and the D's ignored that population (or simply had no idea that they were so legion) to her detriment (I could be convinced that she even went so far as to insult them).

I don't even think it's an angry population per se, but it is one that has given up on any kind of remedy for them via the typical political process...so they either abstain, or they vote for whoever they think take the least from their pockets. The days of idealism and hope and whatever else you want to associate with the Democratic party is dead to this population I think. They've been begged to turn out....FOR WHAT?!? :D I'm sure they have been counted as part of the typical D base, but people are getting wise, and have slowly been walking out from under the tent for years.

Note that I am not saying that all of that is logical (I could argue pretty strongly against some of those statements myself), but it IS out there, and it's a growing mindset, and I have no idea what can be said to this group, if anything at this point. They've simply given up.
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Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:27 pm I will say this once more and then shut up regarding Drazzil's supposed political position: I think he's spot on about ONE thing...that there is a large swath of the population that feels 'left behind' either economically, socially, politically or all three.
I don't think anyone is arguing that that isn't true. It's the calls to violence, instituting a totalitarian regime and calling me "Little Honeysuckle" that we find wrong.

...wait...that last part was meant for another forum.
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Sudy wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:23 pm Keep punching down on people who may be legitimately disturbed and you'll get more. Or you won't, because I'm conflict averse.
I 100% don't think Drazzil is a troll. I just think he says what he really believes in any given moment and doesn't do it to enflame others. I also think people on this board have a tendency to pile on him. BUT he does bring it on himself and he keeps coming back for more, so I can't really feel bad for him either.
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Hepcat will always be my "Big Honeysuckle". :wub:

I get the frustration. But ultimately we've got to work within the confines of the system, and the system moves sloooooowly. Anyone expecting a miracle at this point is bound to be disappointed.
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hepcat wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:30 pm
Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:27 pm I will say this once more and then shut up regarding Drazzil's supposed political position: I think he's spot on about ONE thing...that there is a large swath of the population that feels 'left behind' either economically, socially, politically or all three.
It's the calls to violence, instituting a totalitarian regime
Yeah, forgot to add the part about not agreeing with that stuff, and the pretty odd recruitment effort, etc. However, I can hear Obama in my head saying "when they take the low road, we take the high road" and it's getting fainter and fainter. Wouldn't hurt him (or Michelle :wub: ) to come out of hiding and prop us up a bit, rally the troops as it were, etc.

He's probably curled up in the fetal position under a table somewhere, with a tiny, wet (from his literal liberal tears) Constitution gripped tightly in his hands. :(

I'm certainly not in the "burn it all down around us!!" while cackling maniacally like The Joker category, but I've also moved so far away from my previous "it will all work itself out eventually" position, that I can't even remember what that felt like anymore.
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It's just ridiculous how quickly this spiraled out of control. Before the 2016 elections I was feeling like things we're going in the right direction. And now I can't think of a way to get it back into the right direction. 6 freaking years and it's all gone to shit.
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Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:09 pm However, I can hear Obama in my head saying "when they take the low road, we take the high road" and it's getting fainter and fainter. Wouldn't hurt him (or Michelle :wub: ) to come out of hiding and prop us up a bit, rally the troops as it were, etc.
That's a good point. I know he's spoken up a bit, but you'd think with the all out assault on our rights, he'd be more vocal. I know traditionally, former presidents have kind of kept to themselves, in a manner of speaking, when it comes to speaking out after their presidency is over. But Trump has all but destroyed that tradition, so I would hope Obama would come out fighting. He still has a lot of respect in the party and the public, so it could really help.
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hepcat wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:29 pmBut Trump has all but destroyed that tradition, so I would hope Obama would come out fighting.
See: High road/low road comment. I assume he is sticking to that concept (and still living in the norms of a past America).

Or he might have kind of mentally checked out like Bush, post-Presidency, and is painting horribly, right beside him.

I do wonder if what we think of as just "political decorum" and norms, of not speaking out after you're out of office, is more like completely exhausted men who feel like they gave 4 or 8 grueling years to the country in its service, and are just...SPENT.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:37 pm
malchior wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:32 pm Eventually the junta leader put the homeless into camps.
Mission accomplished. They were no longer homeless.
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The key to being a good former President is knowing that you’ve done everything you could, and letting someone else do the job. It’s why Trump is so terrible. He can’t help but crap over everything until he dies.

The Democrats have plans to help people like Drazzil. But Republicans undermine those plans and drown it out with lies about immoral socialist Democrats and their big government running your life. No Democrat picks up the megaphone to explain that part of their policy because it feeds into the narrative.
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Zarathud wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:23 pm The key to being a good former President is knowing that you’ve done everything you could, and letting someone else do the job. It’s why Trump is so terrible. He can’t help but crap over everything until he dies.

The Democrats have plans to help people like Drazzil. But Republicans undermine those plans and drown it out with lies about immoral socialist Democrats and their big government running your life. No Democrat picks up the megaphone to explain that part of their policy because it feeds into the narrative.
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/we- ... -something.

Doing something for people like me is always right after the next election, right after they get more seats, right after you send 5 10 or 15 RIGHT NOW!! DONATE NOW!! ORGANIZE NOW!! You don't want the Republicans to win do you!? We've got this amorphous sixteen step PowerPoint presentation about how we're going to send you that check for two thou-- oh! We got the seat? Here's five hundred dollars and no we can't send the rest, because senator -- or house member -- doesn't agree!! BIPARTISANSHIP! CORDIALITY! Won't you send us another fifty dollars and don't forget to turn out to vote in two years, but pack a lunch because you're going to stand in line all day and we don't have the votes to set up more polling stations.

:roll:

And yeah I ripped off McSweeney's tone and writing style... It hit the nail on the head. My views have not changed one Iota. Good luck fellow human beings. We're gonna need it.
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Drazzil wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:06 pm
Zarathud wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:23 pm The key to being a good former President is knowing that you’ve done everything you could, and letting someone else do the job. It’s why Trump is so terrible. He can’t help but crap over everything until he dies.

The Democrats have plans to help people like Drazzil. But Republicans undermine those plans and drown it out with lies about immoral socialist Democrats and their big government running your life. No Democrat picks up the megaphone to explain that part of their policy because it feeds into the narrative.
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/we- ... -something.

Doing something for people like me is always right after the next election, right after they get more seats, right after you send 5 10 or 15 RIGHT NOW!! DONATE NOW!! ORGANIZE NOW!! You don't want the Republicans to win do you!? We've got this amorphous sixteen step PowerPoint presentation about how we're going to send you that check for two thou-- oh! We got the seat? Here's five hundred dollars and no we can't send the rest, because senator -- or house member -- doesn't agree!! BIPARTISANSHIP! CORDIALITY! Won't you send us another fifty dollars and don't forget to turn out to vote in two years, but pack a lunch because you're going to stand in line all day and we don't have the votes to set up more polling stations.

:roll:

And yeah I ripped off McSweeney's tone and writing style... It hit the nail on the head. My views have not changed one Iota. Good luck fellow human beings. We're gonna need it.
Do you also punish Planned Parenthood for allowing this to happen with Roe v Wade?
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Unagi wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:25 am
Drazzil wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:06 pm
Zarathud wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:23 pm The key to being a good former President is knowing that you’ve done everything you could, and letting someone else do the job. It’s why Trump is so terrible. He can’t help but crap over everything until he dies.

The Democrats have plans to help people like Drazzil. But Republicans undermine those plans and drown it out with lies about immoral socialist Democrats and their big government running your life. No Democrat picks up the megaphone to explain that part of their policy because it feeds into the narrative.
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/we- ... -something.

Doing something for people like me is always right after the next election, right after they get more seats, right after you send 5 10 or 15 RIGHT NOW!! DONATE NOW!! ORGANIZE NOW!! You don't want the Republicans to win do you!? We've got this amorphous sixteen step PowerPoint presentation about how we're going to send you that check for two thou-- oh! We got the seat? Here's five hundred dollars and no we can't send the rest, because senator -- or house member -- doesn't agree!! BIPARTISANSHIP! CORDIALITY! Won't you send us another fifty dollars and don't forget to turn out to vote in two years, but pack a lunch because you're going to stand in line all day and we don't have the votes to set up more polling stations.

:roll:

And yeah I ripped off McSweeney's tone and writing style... It hit the nail on the head. My views have not changed one Iota. Good luck fellow human beings. We're gonna need it.
Do you also punish Planned Parenthood for allowing this to happen with Roe v Wade?
Planned parenthood doesn't take donations and ask for volunteers to open new and then just not give family planning Its like comparing apples to oranges.
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Do the politicians in question not write and then vote for bills that Republicans kill?
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Unagi wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:45 am Do the politicians in question not write and then vote for bills that Republicans kill?
When they know they're safely outnumbered and it'll never pass. When they're in power its all "bipartisanship" and "respect the process" and some senator or another develops "deep reservations"
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You are making this stuff up.
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That's been established for years. :wink:
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Unagi wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:52 am You are making this stuff up.
No my friend. This is an actual tactic they use. When they know it will never pass they propose anything and everything. When they have a majority one senqtor or house member or another stalls... Joe Biden says no filibuster carveout and lectures people who want more to "respect the process"
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Drazzil wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:15 pm When they have a majority one senqtor or house member or another stalls... Joe Biden says no filibuster carveout and lectures people who want more to "respect the process"
NM, I'll answer my own question:
The Democrats controlled the House from 2007 until 2011. They controlled the Senate from 2007 until 2015. So they last held both houses on January 3, 2011.
Next up, let's talk about Mitch McConnell. Let me start - F Mitch McConnell.

To be clear, I'm not saying politicians don't politician, however understanding how and why the Democrats in Congress have been effectively stopped from doing anything meaningful for over a decade now is critical. Especially when you have an entire party that campaigns on actively undermining and rewinding any incremental progress that's been made.

Biden's biggest sin right now (IMHO) is his signaling to the other career Democrats that have been at this for 30+ years that the best course of action is to just continue to try and negotiate with the GOP. I can understand why he believes that's the path to take right now but unless voters vote and our democracy holds in 2022 (and 2024), the current strategy is going to end badly.
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Smoove_B wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:29 pm
Drazzil wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:15 pm When they have a majority one senqtor or house member or another stalls... Joe Biden says no filibuster carveout and lectures people who want more to "respect the process"
NM, I'll answer my own question:
The Democrats controlled the House from 2007 until 2011. They controlled the Senate from 2007 until 2015. So they last held both houses on January 3, 2011.
Next up, let's talk about Mitch McConnell. Let me start - F Mitch McConnell.

To be clear, I'm not saying politicians don't politician, however understanding how and why the Democrats in Congress have been effectively stopped from doing anything meaningful for over a decade now is critical. Especially when you have an entire party that campaigns on actively undermining and rewinding any incremental progress that's been made.

Biden's biggest sin right now (IMHO) is his signaling to the other career Democrats that have been at this for 30+ years that the best course of action is to just continue to try and negotiate with the GOP. I can understand why he believes that's the path to take right now but unless voters vote and our democracy holds in 2022 (and 2024), the current strategy is going to end badly.
Yup. There needs to be a stick (e.g. proposed Attack Dog Harris) to go with negotiations or there will be no possible win-win scenario and McConnell and the GOP can continue with the zero-sum, I win, you lose approach which has dominated the GOP for the 21st Century (outside of Bush's unfunded, debt production policies which helped blow up the deficit for Obama - such as Medicare Part D and No Child Left Behind).
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Smoove_B wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:29 pmBiden's biggest sin right now (IMHO) is his signaling to the other career Democrats that have been at this for 30+ years that the best course of action is to just continue to try and negotiate with the GOP. I can understand why he believes that's the path to take right now but unless voters vote and our democracy holds in 2022 (and 2024), the current strategy is going to end badly.
I think it's important to note that that was a pretty big part of the platform he ran on, so Biden being Biden is on us as well. I guess the Biden (mostly primary) voters thought that what the country needed was calm, healing and a master bipartisan...er.

Simply, we were wrong (I voted for Harris or Bernie in the primary, IIRC) - although the lack of good faith negotiating on the right and leaning into the whole 'dirty pool' norm breaking stuff (yay Mitch!) was pretty obvious by then, so not sure how we missed that little detail.

We fuct up, and backed the wrong horse to win this particular kind of race. What we needed was an armor-plated, horse/AT-AT hybrid (hmmm I wonder what Craiyon AI would make of that? :think: :D).
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I don't think he was wrong in trying to attempt that or promising that would be his opening play - it's a reasonable approach.

The problem is the GOP has double,triple, quadrupled down on obstruction at this point - likely because it's been working great for them so far.

The answer isn't to start throwing them in jail. The answer is to be open to different tactics. Why isn't Nancy Pelosi on TV at 12pm every day to point out what a total bell-end Mitch McConnell is? Literally a 5 minute press conference to remind everyone that he's holding up any number of things. She could rotate through any number of topics or bills that have been kicked over to the Senate over the last 5+ years that he's killed.

They should be exploring any number of procedural options that would allow them to do *anything* other than flounder - knowing Manchin and Sinema are useless at this point.

It feels like Biden and the Democrats are talking about the future - what they can accomplish if people vote in the Fall whereas the GOP is focusing on what they're doing *right now* to impede the Democrats at every step in every location. I completely get Drazzil's frustration - it feels like the Democrats have shrugged their shoulders and said, "Well, we'll get 'em next time!" instead of coming up with a new strategy *right now*.
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Smoove_B wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:15 pmThe answer isn't to start throwing them in jail. The answer is to be open to different tactics. Why isn't Nancy Pelosi on TV at 12pm every day to point out what a total bell-end Mitch McConnell is? Literally a 5 minute press conference to remind everyone that he's holding up any number of things. She could rotate through any number of topics or bills that have been kicked over to the Senate over the last 5+ years that he's killed.

They should be exploring any number of procedural options that would allow them to do *anything* other than flounder - knowing Manchin and Sinema are useless at this point.

It feels like Biden and the Democrats are talking about the future - what they can accomplish if people vote in the Fall whereas the GOP is focusing on what they're doing *right now* to impede the Democrats at every step in every location. I completely get Drazzil's frustration - it feels like the Democrats have shrugged their shoulders and said, "Well, we'll get 'em next time!" instead of coming up with a new strategy *right now*.
I'm in the angry boat to be clear, and agree with everything you said, but I think MAYBE part of the answer is, the people you want to be doing something are ANCIENT. They are likely taking several mid day naps at this point (not joking). They also have decades of legacy, decades of civil service that they likely care about. Do they want to spend their last 3% of time in office, in the dirt and muck, wrestling with the pigs and sparring with idiots like MTG? Not sure about Biden, but Pelosi DEFINITELY gives off the vibe that that kind of thing is below her, as a Sr. Stateswoman.

My opinion is that if you're too old or tired, or concerned about your legacy to fight, and fight hard when necessary, you shouldn't have run for election/re-election.

Again in Biden's defense he DID bow out from pressure to run in 2016 (due to different reasons than above), and I get the SENSE that he didn't really want to run this last time either, but either felt obligated to do so, or for other reasons.
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Yes, I agree with all that. Boomers aren't just screwing up the private sector, they're ruining public service as well (at all levels).

But here's a perfect example:


We have to remember who is the backbone of this country.

The American worker.
At the risk of being labeled a fanatic, removing mask mandates and lowering Covid protections nationwide undermines this message. I'm old enough to remember when retail workers were considered essential. Now? Get back to work without masks and improved air filtration and like it.
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No love for the American Non-Worker? WTF?!
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Or the non-American workers.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Smoove_B wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:15 pm
They should be exploring any number of procedural options that would allow them to do *anything* other than flounder - knowing Manchin and Sinema are useless at this point.
With Manchin's blessing, Senate Dems reveal plan to let Medicare negotiate drug prices.

It's not huge, but it's something.
If approved to go through reconciliation by the parliamentarian and passed by both chambers of Congress, the bill would allow Medicare to negotiate prices with pharmaceutical companies starting in 2023, and cap out-of-pocket costs for Medicare patients at $2,000 per year, among other provisions. It would also impose an “inflation rebate” policy, mandating drug companies pay back consumers if they raise prices above inflation, according to Punchbowl.

Other aspects included in the original text of Build Back Better — pertaining to climate change and tax reform — are still being negotiated within the Democratic caucus.
According to a report I read last night (and can't find now), Manchin is on board with a $1T tax hike if half of it is used for deficit reduction.
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Boomers taking care of (mostly) their own...again.

I'm...shocked.
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Carpet_pissr wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:43 pm Boomers taking care of (mostly) their own...again.

I'm...shocked.
More:


Imagine working 40 or 50 years. Working hard. Doing everything right to provide for your family. And your pension goes insolvent through no fault of your own.

I did something about it.

The Butch Lewis Act will keep multiemployer plans solvent for decades to come – until 2051.
Is there anyone that started working in the last ~20 years that actually has access to a future pension?
Maybe next year, maybe no go
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Old people vote.

Upthread we were griping that the Democrats need to do something, anything. Now they're doing things and we're griping that they're the wrong things. Let's see what ultimately goes into their reconciliation bill, and whether they can even pull it off before the midterms. This is most likely their last chance to legislate for a long time.
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Smoove_B wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:52 pm Is there anyone that started working in the last ~20 years that actually has access to a future pension?
Sup.
Hodor.
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pr0ner wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:52 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:52 pm Is there anyone that started working in the last ~20 years that actually has access to a future pension?
Sup.
I have two, but that's not the point here. :wink: I think you and I are in the minority and we likely got in on the last dying breath of public pensions. I really shouldn't even have two, but they made me. And then gave me a 403(b). It's all ridiculous, but I digress.
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pr0ner wrote:
Smoove_B wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:52 pm Is there anyone that started working in the last ~20 years that actually has access to a future pension?
Sup.
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Combustible Lemur wrote:
pr0ner wrote:
Smoove_B wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:52 pm Is there anyone that started working in the last ~20 years that actually has access to a future pension?
Sup.
Yo

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Course i work in a field where i have to worry about the repupblestapo blackballing and fucking over my trans and gay kids, but at least ive got a pention..... For now.

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Private pension here, vested four years ago.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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