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At the beginning of the hearing in the trigger law case Tuesday morning, Rev. Calvin Cosnahan, a United Methodist Church pastor, led a prayer as a “special chaplain” at Halford’s request.

“Lord, we pray for the presence of your holy spirt in this courtroom today. … We seek your truth, not our own. We seek your wisdom, not our own,” the minister said, asking God to “grant that the cause of truth, justice and humanity should in nowise suffer in the proceedings today.”

YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:31 pm P.S. My mom was talking to my dad (they've been divorced for decades) and mentioned she couldn't find her car keys the other day so she prayed and prayed to find them, and stumbled across them in the bathroom. Trying to get my dad to admit what a miracle that was, my dad replied, "I'm sure God has better things to do than find your damn car keys."

Holman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:21 pm FWIW, according to people who study these things, there are distinctions between "Christofascism" (which involves the embrace of violence) and "Christian Nationalism" (which favors the use of politics, laws, and courts to establish a Christian state).

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:41 pm

Holman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:21 pm FWIW, according to people who study these things, there are distinctions between "Christofascism" (which involves the embrace of violence) and "Christian Nationalism" (which favors the use of politics, laws, and courts to establish a Christian state).

I suppose it could come down to whether or not the Christian Nationals actually denounce their fascist elements or just pretend they don't exists while encouraging them to do all the heavy lifting.

I'm going to guess...we're in trouble.

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:04 pm

YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:31 pm P.S. My mom was talking to my dad (they've been divorced for decades) and mentioned she couldn't find her car keys the other day so she prayed and prayed to find them, and stumbled across them in the bathroom. Trying to get my dad to admit what a miracle that was, my dad replied, "I'm sure God has better things to do than find your damn car keys."

My whole family is big on calling out these “everyday miracles”. Beautiful sunsets. Modern medicine. The functionality and design of the human body. Chance coincidences (like finding your keys after a prayer or turning left instead of right and avoiding an accident). They are firmly convinced these things only happen because of divine providence and are proof of gods existence and grace.

They get really frustrated with my atheist brother and I when we loudly discuss the scientific reasoning behind their “miracles”.

YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:31 pm I got really upset with my mom this past weekend when I found out that she scolded my daughter when my daughter was explaining (scientifically) how clouds form and stay afloat. My mom told her that was "not true" and that God formed the clouds and held them up.

The older she gets, the more she falls into this Biblical bullshit (she also told my daughter the earth was only 6,000 years old, which is when I truly know you've fallen off the deep end).

We're at a point where the lunatics are in control of the asylum.

P.S. My mom was talking to my dad (they've been divorced for decades) and mentioned she couldn't find her car keys the other day so she prayed and prayed to find them, and stumbled across them in the bathroom. Trying to get my dad to admit what a miracle that was, my dad replied, "I'm sure God has better things to do than find your damn car keys."

Alefroth wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:52 pm
What do they think of 2 year olds left to wander the street alone because their parents were gunned down at a parade? Satan?

Skinypupy wrote:

YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:31 pm P.S. My mom was talking to my dad (they've been divorced for decades) and mentioned she couldn't find her car keys the other day so she prayed and prayed to find them, and stumbled across them in the bathroom. Trying to get my dad to admit what a miracle that was, my dad replied, "I'm sure God has better things to do than find your damn car keys."

My whole family is big on calling out these “everyday miracles”. Beautiful sunsets. Modern medicine. The functionality and design of the human body. Chance coincidences (like finding your keys after a prayer or turning left instead of right and avoiding an accident). They are firmly convinced these things only happen because of divine providence and are proof of gods existence and grace.

They get really frustrated with my atheist brother and I when we loudly discuss the scientific reasoning behind their “miracles”.

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:22 pm I call bull on the original article. I was baptized and raised Methodist, and the only thing they believe in is that if you bring a covered dish with you to the Pearly Gates, you’re going to get VIP treatment.

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:38 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:22 pm I call bull on the original article. I was baptized and raised Methodist, and the only thing they believe in is that if you bring a covered dish with you to the Pearly Gates, you’re going to get VIP treatment.

It's a form of Monte Christofascism.

Kraken wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:36 pm LawBeef wins the internet for today, which has 24 minutes left. Hurry up and enjoy the title.

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:15 am Honorary "Count" of the Internet, he won he did!

YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:13 pm And just to clarify, I don't want to bash anybody's personal religious beliefs. I have zero problems with people believing what they want to believe in regards to their spiritual side, as long as it's not forced upon me or my kids via words, actions, or laws.

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:38 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:22 pm I call bull on the original article. I was baptized and raised Methodist, and the only thing they believe in is that if you bring a covered dish with you to the Pearly Gates, you’re going to get VIP treatment.

It's a form of Monte Christofascism.

Kraken wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:35 am

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:15 am Honorary "Count" of the Internet, he won he did!

Yeah but that was yesterday. What's he done for us lately?

Unagi wrote:And I don't mean to come down on your mom, but man - the things you share about her... Not a nice picture you paint.

YellowKing wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:40 pm

Unagi wrote:And I don't mean to come down on your mom, but man - the things you share about her... Not a nice picture you paint.

You may be confusing my mom with my mother-in-law. My mom's biggest flaw is the sometimes annoying religious stuff above. The MIL is the one that is a straight up racist narcissist.

hepcat wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:46 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:38 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:22 pm I call bull on the original article. I was baptized and raised Methodist, and the only thing they believe in is that if you bring a covered dish with you to the Pearly Gates, you’re going to get VIP treatment.

It's a form of Monte Christofascism.

Our Father, who art....DELICIOUS.

side note on Methodists: I may have mentioned it before, but when I was visiting my father over Christmas, he wanted to attend Christmas service at the church we attended when I was growing up. From what I remembered, it was always a pretty casual atmosphere. There was never any "fire and brimstone" style sermons. It was all pretty low key and loving, and I don't remember them condemning anyone as much as just asking people to treat each other with kindness and compassion. Flash forward to last Christmas, and while the sermon was still very peaceful and non-judgemental (to the degree it could be, of course), the audience in the pews was FAR more evangelical in their response. What I mean is, they would raise their hands to the heavens and murmur "hallelujah" every time there was a pause in a sermon. Not earth shattering, but it was a surprising change in demeanor to me. I'm used to seeing that in movies about revivalist sermons in evangelical sections of America.

Unagi wrote:Sorry about that.

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:57 pm Semi-related...a specific...wing of modern Christian Evangelicals that really piss me off: the Prosperity Gospel

YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:13 pm And just to clarify, I don't want to bash anybody's personal religious beliefs. I have zero problems with people believing what they want to believe in regards to their spiritual side, as long as it's not forced upon me or my kids via words, actions, or laws.