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Also, the absolute free speech got caught hiding an account he doesn't like.

Lil’ context for those of us not following the soap opera to know all the players?

Who is elonjet?

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:12 pm Lil’ context for those of us not following the soap opera to know all the players?

Who is elonjet?

It’s the account that tracks Musk’s private jet.

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:15 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:12 pm Lil’ context for those of us not following the soap opera to know all the players?

Who is elonjet?

It’s the account that tracks Musk’s private jet.

I’m almost scared to ask: you serious?

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:18 pm

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:15 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:12 pm Lil’ context for those of us not following the soap opera to know all the players?

Who is elonjet?

It’s the account that tracks Musk’s private jet.

I’m almost scared to ask: you serious?

Yes, that's exactly what it is

Can't wait to see who plays the sexy, flirty nurse who is TOTALLY NOT pregnant with Elon's baby, and the sweet on the surface, but heart of a Grinch mother in law who's plotting his downfall bc of the secrets he knows about her past.

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:18 pm

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:15 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:12 pm Lil’ context for those of us not following the soap opera to know all the players?

Who is elonjet?

It’s the account that tracks Musk’s private jet.

I’m almost scared to ask: you serious?

Can see for yourself, the account is still up.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ElonJet

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:18 pm

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:15 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:12 pm Lil’ context for those of us not following the soap opera to know all the players?

Who is elonjet?

It’s the account that tracks Musk’s private jet.

I’m almost scared to ask: you serious?

It's not something like "Elon's jet's Twitter account."

It's a guy who keeps track of the jet's flights (since non-military flight records are public domain) and, essentially, which oligarchs he visits.

Oh good, I was about to make that clarification.

Yeah, it’s a tattletale account that Elon would like to go away.

Any proof the screenshot is real?

Alefroth wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:29 pm Any proof the screenshot is real?

Not 3rd party verification/proof but no one seems to be denying it either.

So has the account revealed anything nefarious?

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:18 pm So has the account revealed anything nefarious?

I don't know. But its treatment suggests that Musk's free-speech absolutism ends where criticizing Musk begins.

Indeed. It isn't nefarious. Elon has always criticized the account. He has tried buying the guy off with tiny sums of money Sweeney once claimed Elon offered him $5K to stop tracking his plane. The way I'd characterize it is hypocrisy. He is currently bitching about the leftists who suppressed free speech and here he is doing it for his own purposes.

Also CNBC is reporting it talking TESLA CyberTruck in 2023 and trying to take F150 marketshare. I wonder how much of Douche Musk is an attempt to appeal to truck buyers. I also wonder how much Douche Musk is hurting sedan purchases. At least in the non stop Musk talk in business news, with everyone non stop saying buy TESLA!, they are noting how badly he was boo'd at Dave Chapelle every time they bring up his name.

LordMortis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:41 pm Also CNBC is reporting it talking TESLA CyberTruck in 2023 and trying to take F150 marketshare. I wonder how much of Douche Musk is an attempt to appeal to truck buyers. I also wonder how much Douche Musk is hurting sedan purchases. At least in the non stop Musk talk in business news, with everyone non stop saying buy TESLA!, they are noting how badly he was boo'd at Dave Chapelle every time they bring up his name.

No matter how much of an asshole Musk is, I can't imagine an F150 coal roller buying a Cybertruck. I do know a number of EV buyers saying that they will not buy a Tesla sedan. I know I made the decision to buy the Mach-E in part because I didn't want to support Musk. One of my extended family that has bought an S and a 3 has said that they will be looking at the Volvo instead.

gbasden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:15 pm

LordMortis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:41 pm Also CNBC is reporting it talking TESLA CyberTruck in 2023 and trying to take F150 marketshare. I wonder how much of Douche Musk is an attempt to appeal to truck buyers. I also wonder how much Douche Musk is hurting sedan purchases. At least in the non stop Musk talk in business news, with everyone non stop saying buy TESLA!, they are noting how badly he was boo'd at Dave Chapelle every time they bring up his name.

No matter how much of an asshole Musk is, I can't imagine an F150 coal roller buying a Cybertruck. I do know a number of EV buyers saying that they will not buy a Tesla sedan. I know I made the decision to buy the Mach-E in part because I didn't want to support Musk. One of my extended family that has bought an S and a 3 has said that they will be looking at the Volvo instead.

I saw a report somewhere that positive views of Tesla are shifting based on political views. R opinion of Tesla is up, but still not anything you'd call high. I don't remember exact numbers but it was like from 10% to 18% or similar, with a similar drop in D perspective.

exact numbers:

https://electrek.co/2022/12/12/tesla-be ... nd-survey/

Tesla’s net favorability among self-described Democrats in the U.S. fell to an average of 10.4% this month through Nov. 27, down from an average of 24.8% in October, according to Morning Consult. It rose to 26.5% from 20% among self-described Republicans during the same period.

25 -> 10 on the D side is a bunch and sounds reasonable, based on my personal Tesla driving Democratic perspective.

Thank goodness they are used to mental gymnastics, because when they all figure out that Elon is on their team...on one hand, an icon of the hated right-wing bogeyman, THE GREEN REVOLUTION. On the other, a mouthy, narcissistic leader type to tell them what to think or to make them feel like they can continue to own their assholishness? Tough!!!

Elon could be Trump 2.0, and that likely has them soiling their pants in excitement.

I think it's funny that my dad, who constantly bitches about gas prices, also mocks and despises electric vehicles. I just don't get people anymore.

YellowKing wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:43 pm I think it's funny that my dad, who constantly bitches about gas prices, also mocks and despises electric vehicles. I just don't get people anymore.

The point is that America was better before the hippies.

Seriously. That's the entirety of the GOP argument.

Yeah, to be clear: old gas-guzzling vehicles were not the problem... the price of gas was the only single problem and the only one worth tackling.

Pollution is a fucking headache and a problem for your grandchildren's grandchildren and to that point, they will be fine because they will have vehicles that defy gravity, so chill.

Unagi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:49 pm
Pollution is a fucking headache and a problem for your grandchildren's grandchildren and to that point, they will be fine because they will have vehicles that defy gravity, so chill.

We won't have to wait that long.

Holman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:52 pm

YellowKing wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:43 pm I think it's funny that my dad, who constantly bitches about gas prices, also mocks and despises electric vehicles. I just don't get people anymore.

The point is that America was better before the hippies.

Seriously. That's the entirety of the GOP argument.

I would add the Civil Rights Act as well.

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:18 pm So has the account revealed anything nefarious?

Just things like the fact that the EV evangelist takes 6 mile flights. A Tesla would have taken 10 minutes.


It's still public information, the Twitter account just aggregates and simplifies.

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:12 am

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:18 pm So has the account revealed anything nefarious?

Just things like the fact that the EV evangelist takes 6 mile flights. A Tesla would have taken 10 minutes.


It's still public information, the Twitter account just aggregates and simplifies.

So the answer is “no”?

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:14 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:12 am

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:18 pm So has the account revealed anything nefarious?

Just things like the fact that the EV evangelist takes 6 mile flights. A Tesla would have taken 10 minutes.


It's still public information, the Twitter account just aggregates and simplifies.

So the answer is “no”?

No, nothing nefarious. Or really a security threat. Just stuff bad for Musk's public image.

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 3:56 am

Unagi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:49 pm
Pollution is a fucking headache and a problem for your grandchildren's grandchildren and to that point, they will be fine because they will have vehicles that defy gravity, so chill.

We won't have to wait that long.

Oh I know it, I'm just saying what "people" like to imagine.... that it's a far-off problem.

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:22 am

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:14 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:12 am

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:18 pm So has the account revealed anything nefarious?

Just things like the fact that the EV evangelist takes 6 mile flights. A Tesla would have taken 10 minutes.


It's still public information, the Twitter account just aggregates and simplifies.

So the answer is “no”?

No, nothing nefarious. Or really a security threat. Just stuff bad for Musk's public image.

Bad enough for Musk's public image that the account was officially suspended today.

Free Speech absolutism at its finest. I did Nah Tsea that coming.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/14/twitter ... -jet-.html

pr0ner wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:31 am Bad enough for Musk's public image that the account was officially suspended today.

lol - has there been a reason given?

Unagi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:42 am

pr0ner wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:31 am Bad enough for Musk's public image that the account was officially suspended today.

lol - has there been a reason given?

Musk did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Thanks, I went and looked it up and was going to come back and answer my own question.

Apparently, an identical account tracking Jeff Bezos' jet is still up.

Unagi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:05 am

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 3:56 am

Unagi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:49 pm
Pollution is a fucking headache and a problem for your grandchildren's grandchildren and to that point, they will be fine because they will have vehicles that defy gravity, so chill.

We won't have to wait that long.

Oh I know it, I'm just saying what "people" like to imagine.... that it's a far-off problem.

Ah, sorry. I misinterpreted it.

Our grandchildren's grandchildren will either have had their grandparents and great grandparents solve the problem back in olden times, or they'll be the kids from Beyond Thunderdome.

There was a $500M block trade of TSLA yesterday at an 8.2% discount from the open. Not 100% but a good chance that was Musk getting out some capital.

At the trade price of $160.53 vs current tof $156.92, was a savings of $11.2M. But a loss of over $40M vs 2 days ago.

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:28 pm There was a $500M block trade of TSLA yesterday at an 8.2% discount from the open. Not 100% but a good chance that was Musk getting out some capital.

I doubt any of his "partners" are eager to pour more cash at this point. The damage they wanted is done.

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:28 pm There was a $500M block trade of TSLA yesterday at an 8.2% discount from the open. Not 100% but a good chance that was Musk getting out some capital.

Maybe he needs the money to pay Twitter's physical office space rent that he's refused to pay for weeks.

Holman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:54 am Apparently, an identical account tracking Jeff Bezos' jet is still up.

Not anymore. Twitter suspended Jack Sweeney's personal account, along with all of his other plane tracking accounts.

Sweeney shared a message from Twitter on Wednesday that said his personal account had been suspended for violating its rules against “platform manipulation and spam” because it had used Twitter to “artificially amplify or suppress information or engage in behavior that manipulates or disrupts people’s experience on Twitter.” It also said any of his attempts to create a new account would be suspended as well.

There are also additional details in the story about Twitter abruptly shutting down one of their two main office buildings that ties in to them not paying rent in recent weeks.

From Marketwatch, I can't link

Some of the recent controversies swirling around Musk's ownership of social-media company include a report in the New York Times that Musk allegedly is looking to cut costs by stopping rent payments on the Twitter's offices, stopping payments to vendors, and considering not paying severance to former Twitter employees.

DJMusk indeed.

Also CNBC went from 24 hours adoring him to a nonstop barrage of critical reports in the last week. They still don't stop talking about him but now there is no more fawning.