Re: The Impeachment of Joe Biden
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:31 pm
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/
Yesterday they said he is pushing for a public deposition and the GOP Congress is saying "no. It must be behind closed doors."Unagi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:11 am So, there is a lot of headline material out there right now telling me that Hunter Biden is pushing to testify publicly before the impeachment inquiry.
I'm sure this is like giving the Borg an impossible 3D shape to process, as someone willingly wanting to provide public testimony is like a winged unicorn.
Yeah, I've never in my life heard of something like that. I could see a spy being forced to give testimony behind closed doors even if the spy wanted all of the information he collected to be made public, but this isn't that.LordMortis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:45 amYesterday they said he is pushing for a public deposition and the GOP Congress is saying "no. It must be behind closed doors."Unagi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:11 am So, there is a lot of headline material out there right now telling me that Hunter Biden is pushing to testify publicly before the impeachment inquiry.
I'm sure this is like giving the Borg an impossible 3D shape to process, as someone willingly wanting to provide public testimony is like a winged unicorn.
By contrast, Republicans burst into a private hearing during the Ukraine whistleblower (and eventual impeachment) scandal during the Trump era due to the importance of public hearings.Unagi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:49 amYeah, I've never in my life heard of something like that. I could see a spy being forced to give testimony behind closed doors even if the spy wanted all of the information he collected to be made public, but this isn't that.LordMortis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:45 amYesterday they said he is pushing for a public deposition and the GOP Congress is saying "no. It must be behind closed doors."Unagi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:11 am So, there is a lot of headline material out there right now telling me that Hunter Biden is pushing to testify publicly before the impeachment inquiry.
I'm sure this is like giving the Borg an impossible 3D shape to process, as someone willingly wanting to provide public testimony is like a winged unicorn.
This is years of GOP telling us that the Bidens are up to no good, but now they don't want anyone to hear the details... What a laugh.
There is a long list of Democrats like MTG and that "Shut Up" lady from North Carolina are famous for ignorantly trying to shout down things with no respect for decorum that they don't like.
According to a Morning Consult poll, voters are slightly more likely to support Republicans moving forward, 44% support launching impeachment proceedings compared to 40% who do not. But since September, independents and even some Republican voters have soured on the investigation.
Among independents, 43% are opposed to moving forward with the investigation, compared to September when it was just 36%. As for Republicans, there was slight 3 percentage point drop in support from 73% in September.
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White House spokesperson Ian Sams pointed out Morning Consult's findings.
"This comes just days after another new poll found that, by a 48-POINT MARGIN, Americans in key swing districts believe House Republicans have 'prioritized the wrong things' (20% right things, 68% wrong things)," Sams wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter. "As the President likes to say: 'Lots of luck in your senior year!'"
The House Rules Committee was considering whether to advance a vote on a formal impeachment inquiry to the House floor, which it did along party lines. In the course of the debate, Rep. Joe Neguse (D-Colo.) had a pretty basic question for his Republican colleagues.
“What is the specific constitutional crime that you’re investigating?” Neguse asked Rep. Guy Reschenthaler (R-Pa.).
“Well, we’re having an inquiry so we can do an investigation to compel the production of witnesses and documents,” Reschenthaler said.
Neguse, who served as a House prosecutor during President Donald Trump’s first impeachment trial, pressed again: “And what is the crime you’re investigating?”
Reschenthaler responded merely, “High crimes, misdemeanors and bribery.” It was a reference to the constitutional threshold for impeachment, not a specific offense.
“What high crime and misdemeanor are you investigating?” Neguse asked.
“Look,” Reschenthaler said, “once I get time, I will explain what we’re looking at.”
I think it's less about the base and more about sowing doubt in the fence-sitters, or those that were willing to vote for Biden but didn't really want to. They don't need to turn those people to (probably) Trump, they just need to make them not want to vote.
Someone should seriously be asking Jim Jordan about his refusal to appear, but I guess that's not important right now.House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) and House Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) are suggesting that President Biden may have “engaged in a conspiracy to obstruct a proceeding of Congress” if he knew that his son Hunter Biden planned to defy a congressional subpoena.
In a Wednesday letter to Edward Siskel, a White House counsel and assistant to the president, the committee chairs requested documents and communications from employees of the Executive Office of the President regarding the deposition of Hunter Biden.
Comer and Jordan pointed to a statement from White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre to justify their suspicion of obstruction and said it “could constitute an impeachable offense.”
Donald J. Trump’s businesses received at least $7.8 million from 20 foreign governments during his presidency, according to new documents released by House Democrats on Thursday that show how much he received from overseas transactions while he was in the White House, most of it from China.
The transactions, detailed in a 156-page report called “White House For Sale” that was produced by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee, offer concrete evidence that the former president engaged in the kind of conduct that House Republicans have labored, so far unsuccessfully, to prove that President Biden did as they work to build an impeachment case against him.
Using documents produced through a court fight, the report describes how foreign governments and their controlled entities, including a top U.S. adversary, interacted with Trump businesses while he was president. They paid millions to the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.; Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas; Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in New York; and Trump World Tower at 845 United Nations Plaza in New York.
The Constitution prohibits federal officeholders from accepting money, payments or gifts “of any kind whatever” from foreign governments and monarchs unless they obtain “the consent of the Congress” to do so. The report notes that Mr. Trump never went to Congress to seek consent.
House Democrats highlighted the transactions on Thursday as a counterweight to Republicans’ impeachment inquiry into Mr. Biden, which has sought to tie him to international business deals by his son Hunter Biden before his father became president in a bid to prove corruption or influence peddling. They have so far failed to show that President Biden was enriched in any way by any of those transactions.
“By elevating his personal financial interests and the policy priorities of corrupt foreign powers over the American public interest, former President Trump violated both the clear commands of the Constitution and the careful precedent set and observed by every previous commander in chief,” Representative Jamie Raskin of Maryland, the top Democrat on the Oversight Committee, wrote in a foreword to the report.
Among the countries patronizing Mr. Trump’s properties, China made the largest total payment — $5.5 million — to his business interests, the report found. Those payments included millions of dollars from China’s Embassy in the United States, the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China and the Hainan Airlines Holding Company.
Saudi Arabia was the second-largest spender, shelling out more than $615,000 at the Trump World Tower and Trump International Hotel.
ouse Republicans are increasingly disenchanted with Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., saying his leadership of the Biden impeachment inquiry has become a "clueless investigation" at best and — at worst — "a disaster."
Less than 10 months away from the 2024 election, his impeachment investigation is barreling toward its conclusion, with no smoking gun to bring the president to his knees. Only one thing is clear: Comer, the chairman of the House Oversight Committee, has lost the trust of some in his own party.
“One would be hard pressed to find the best moment for James Comer in the Oversight Committee,” one House Republican lawmaker, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to maintain internal relationships, told The Messenger. “It’s been a parade of embarrassments.”
Dealing with a complex international political situation with almost a century of convolution and wide-ranging impacts =/= 'supporting.'Victoria Raverna wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:25 pm I guess impeach him for supporting Israel commit genocide doesn't work?
Also that the GOP want to support Israel, and want to say the donkeys support Hamas and show evidence by showing they aren't willing to spend more on Israel support bundling it with border control spending while divorcing it from all other spending.Zarathud wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:17 am VR has forgotten that Republican Party has taken the position that the U.S. President is literally immune from prosecution. Any such action would require Republican votes, and go far beyond even what the U.N. might consider.
But it's the same arguments the radical left tried (and failed) to make against Presidents Reagan and Bush when the U.S. conducted active military operations under their direction.
Special counsel David Weiss charged a former FBI informant with lying about President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden’s involvement in business dealings with Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings, undercutting a major aspect of Republicans’ impeachment inquiry into the president.