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Smoove_B wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 12:57 pm
YellowKing wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 12:51 pm I'm assuming we should be getting actual shipping notices any day now.
They're using FunAgain Games. I would expect the game to be delivered for a week and you'll get a random email from them in late May letting you know it shipped.
And they're already screwing things up. Apparently they aren't shipping to the correct address for folks who changed their address months before today even, and there's an "invoice" problem being mentioned by one of the Succubus folks. :doh:
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FunAgain is the worst. The.Worst.

As I said, I'm fully expecting my copy to arrive in June. Maybe.
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hepcat wrote:And they're already screwing things up. Apparently they aren't shipping to the correct address for folks who changed their address months before today even, and there's an "invoice" problem being mentioned by one of the Succubus folks.
Oh no, that's not good. I emailed them about a change in address back in October and was assured it was changed. :doh: :doh: :doh:

And yeah, I'm going to have to temper my optimism. Apparently not all of the Europe orders have been fulfilled even 5 weeks after start of fulfillment.
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Funagain doesn’t handle European orders though, does it?
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coopasonic wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 12:30 pm
Skinypupy wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 11:53 am So, I've been actually wondering about this as well. Middara is my first ever Kickstarter, so I really have no idea how the process works.
This made me curious. My first kickstarter was D-Day Dice 10/29/2011. It looks like the sort of thing I should blame on hentzau.
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hepcat wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 5:41 pm Funagain doesn’t handle European orders though, does it?
No, though I can say just about every KS I'm part of that is having any type of Euro delivery is experiencing issues. Between COVID and Brexit, it sounds like a total cluster truck.
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COVID and Brexit and cardboard shortages and canal blockages and container shortages. Even those that are no longer happening built up an incredible backlog that shipments have to wait for huge backlogs for boxes, shipping containers, ships, docking space, customs, warehousing, domestic transport, distributor warehousing/time, more shipping. And that's assuming they got through the initial factory backlog from the shutdowns to begin with.

Oh, and projects that launched before COVID are dealing with massively increased shipping fees on top of it, to the tunes of tens of thousands of dollars that they have to figure out how to handle - eat the loss, pass it on the customer with an extra bill, or (as one project did) just ask for voluntary backer donations and eat whatever loss is left (they were honest, people appreciated it, and ended up recouping all of the extra costs.)

I've gotten two KSs anywhere near on-time in the past year. One was a tiny project with only a couple of hundred backers, the other was digital files. Absolutely everything else is running way, way behind schedule. And most people have been pretty understanding that the world is tied in a Gordian knot right now, save for the minor temper tantrum that gets quickly shut down.
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That's all part of it, but when they actually have product in hand and are sending them out of EU hubs, there are issues. People getting wrong things, going to wrong addresses and needing to pay extra fees. It's bad everywhere.
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Blackhawk wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 10:30 pm cardboard shortages
SHD Logistics, Feb 2021
A sudden shortage of cardboard is impacting on home deliveries. Some specialist sellers are unable to ship orders because of a lack of correct packaging. Corrugated cardboard has become so sought-after it is now being called ‘beige gold’.
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ParcelHero’s Head of Consumer Research, David Jinks MILT, explains: “The Confederation of Paper Industries (CPI) says demand for cardboard boxes from online retailers is five years ahead of pre-pandemic levels. On top of this increased demand, lockdown means packaging is taking longer to be recycled because shops and restaurants, when they are open, recycle more quickly than domestic users. Add to the mix packaging being stockpiled in warehouses because of Brexit, and there’s little wonder there is a severe shortage.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 10:54 pm
Blackhawk wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 10:30 pm cardboard shortages
SHD Logistics, Feb 2021
A sudden shortage of cardboard is impacting on home deliveries. Some specialist sellers are unable to ship orders because of a lack of correct packaging. Corrugated cardboard has become so sought-after it is now being called ‘beige gold’.
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ParcelHero’s Head of Consumer Research, David Jinks MILT, explains: “The Confederation of Paper Industries (CPI) says demand for cardboard boxes from online retailers is five years ahead of pre-pandemic levels. On top of this increased demand, lockdown means packaging is taking longer to be recycled because shops and restaurants, when they are open, recycle more quickly than domestic users. Add to the mix packaging being stockpiled in warehouses because of Brexit, and there’s little wonder there is a severe shortage.
Cardboard shortages are wrecking production costs as well. I received a quote a few days ago for my new game and was told costs on all whiteboard components are up between 20-30% based on the quantity and quality. I was planning to do a DinoGenics reprint this year as well but that just isn't possible in the current climate. My margins on DG can not survive a 30% price increase. :(
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coopasonic wrote:
Skinypupy wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 11:53 am So, I've been actually wondering about this as well. Middara is my first ever Kickstarter, so I really have no idea how the process works.
This made me curious. My first kickstarter was D-Day Dice 10/29/2011. It looks like the sort of thing I should blame on hentzau.
Well, hopefully you didn’t go Line for Life on it…

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Got a notice from Funagain last night that Middara has shipped. Should be here Saturday. :horse:

Interestingly, that backer page that Hepcat so helpfully linked for me doesn't have any updates, and still doesn't show it's been shipped.
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hepcat wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 3:50 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 12:57 pm
YellowKing wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 12:51 pm I'm assuming we should be getting actual shipping notices any day now.
They're using FunAgain Games. I would expect the game to be delivered for a week and you'll get a random email from them in late May letting you know it shipped.
And they're already screwing things up. Apparently they aren't shipping to the correct address for folks who changed their address months before today even, and there's an "invoice" problem being mentioned by one of the Succubus folks. :doh:
The address screw up is for etched dice replacement from previous Kickstarter. I saw the invoice issue, they put the value of the shipment as the whole campaign instead of wave 1 content only. This caused a Russian to pay a heavy customs fee. This is a sign of amateur hour and they should have or consult with someone to help with the production management and logistics.
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Skinypupy wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 11:19 pm Got a notice from Funagain last night that Middara has shipped. Should be here Saturday. :horse:

Interestingly, that backer page that Hepcat so helpfully linked for me doesn't have any updates, and still doesn't show it's been shipped.
That’s pretty common though. Pledge managers don’t usually display shippping or tracking info.

I got my funagain shipping notice Wednesday afternoon....and it still is just listed as label created and waiting for pickup when I check the tracking number they gave me. Par for the course for funagain. It will actually ship a week or two from now, most likely. :x
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Got my shipping notice as well and they used the correct address. No info yet (just label creation), but I'm relieved.
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My office is a 10 minute drive to the warehouse and I have no notifications yet.
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I'm still waiting patiently for Middara to ship. Hopefully, being only an hour away from them, it will arrive fast.
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Well neat, my tracking info just changed to “arrives Monday”.

Still not sure why I backed this one, to be honest. I’m not a fan of jrpg stuff. I think I was just in Kickstarter berserker mode one night. That or Smoove backed it and I saw that he backed it.
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hepcat wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 7:32 pm That or Smoove backed it and I saw that he backed it.
The theme is still a non-draw for me, but the mechanics are quite fun and the story/narrative depth (amount/volume) really pulled me in. Granted, it's been a looooooong time since I've played, but I'm really looking forward to jumping back in.
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Looks like mine's arriving Tuesday.

I love JRPGs so the theme was fine for me, but I was a little hesitant to go in on a nearly Gloomhaven-sized campaign game given all the campaign games I've never finished.

However I was discussing the impending arrival of this with my game group, and they started getting really intrigued. They want to try Crawl Mode or the tutorial and if it clicks possibly play this before Frosthaven.
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This one is pretty much ALL theme for me. I've actually become less interested in long, complex campaign-style games over the past year, but couldn't resist a potential "Final Fantasy in a box" style of game.

(Side Note: I'm kinda surprised there's not really a Final Fantasy board game out there (the Chocobo one sucks, and the CCG doesn't count). Seems like it would be a perfect franchise to create a core game around, then do add on/xpacs for each of the main games in the series. Or do a "mix and match", with heroes and villains from different games battling against each other. Cloud/Zidane/Cecil vs Kefka/Sephiroth/Ultimecia in a smash-up sort of battle would be very cool.)
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It’s here. :dance:

This thing is insanely huge.

EDIT: Good lord, this 74-page instruction manual is...a lot.
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