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PMPing ain’t easy.
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The Meal wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 2:25 pm
The Meal wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:29 am Would you be interested joining us at [Job Title +1] instead? We'd love to have you
I've been at the new place for a month. And as cool as the place looked from the outside, the view's even nicer from the inside.
That's really fantastic. It's wonderful when a company either chooses to respect their employees or is forced to by supply and demand of talent. Congratulations on doing something you enjoy for a company that values you!
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Isgrimnur wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 9:20 pm PMPing ain’t easy.
So today I got a call from the other recruiter from the same company. He approached me via LinkedIn a few weeks ago, hadn't heard back after several initial phone calls until someone else from the company called about the Abbott Labs job. This one would would represent a 66% salary increase over my previous job and while I'd think at that price they should have no problems finding a certified PMP, they are never the less going to interview me on Thursday. It sounds somewhat similar to the other job in that there appears to be no specific project, so while touted as a 6-month contract, it could very well be a try-before-you-buy situation as well. In addition to being in the same general 'hood (it's slightly closer than Abbott) this is also a pharmaceutical company, one that's based in Japan. None of the requirements are deal breakers, although I'm not 100% on the "like to have" list.

And there's an additional prize should I land either of these jobs. My nephew is opening a brewpub in that part of the world, and I just might be needing a place to hang while waiting for rush hour traffic to subside...
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Paingod wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:29 am
Zaxxon wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:56 am
Paingod wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:51 amWhere was the checkbook for the last three years when I was begging for improvements to make everyone's lives a little better and I could stop feeling like I was holding things together with bubble gum and shoestrings??
Run away and don't look back.
I won't look back, but I'm pretty sure I'm running towards something just as bad or worse. It's just in a better area and pays 18% more.
Yup. Worse.

This new employer is so penny-wise that they keep packages of labels for printing stored in the IT room and make people come in to ask for them. They're $25 for a box of 50 sheets. They're also pound-foolish. They're paying for IT monitoring services they don't actually use, have constructed a network with THREE firewalls all branching off a single Netgear 10/100 "backbone" attached to the main ISP feed, and have signed up for a printer lease/contract that lets them print as much color as they want - for $0.08 per page, even if it's just the header bar on an Excel table. They print a lot of color that doesn't need to be color.

The organization is proud of their tradition of promoting from within. I'm the first "outside" IT Manager they've ever had. All the others were raised up through the rank and file floor staff... Some better suited for the job than others. The only reason they looked outside the company was because the Help Desk guy simply didn't want the responsibility. My predecessor left pre-recorded messages for whoever came after him and I assumed it would be quirks and tips on the systems. Nope. It was "How to make a user in Active Directory" and "How to log into the VPN" ... :doh:

I'm on week 2 and have constructed a complete schematic of their network, a disastrous spaghetti string mess. It looks exactly like what you'd expect of a network that has passed hands through four people without strong IT backgrounds who had access to MSP services for solutions that clearly weren't thought all the way through.
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I hope you have some authority to go with those responsibilities.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 pmI hope you have some authority to go with those responsibilities.
So do I.

So far I've tried pushing for a budget review of my department and little else. I'm mostly still gathering data when I'm not putting out fires. They don't have a budget to provide me with from years past - but they do expect me to stay within budget. As far as I can tell that means "Don't spend shit unless whatever it is has caught on fire". If I can get a budget hammered out of the shit I have to work with, I might be able to pull off something. If I can't ... well, a quick job hop can be written off as a bad fit between employee and company.

My boss is very hands-off, vocally so - calling herself a "light touch" and so far providing zero goals or objectives for the department. She won't actually tell me what boundaries she's set on my role. My predecessor took this to mean "Get into everything you can and don't let go" and as a result he spent half his time juggling sales and product placement that had nothing to do with IT. He'd start a system and then fail to hand it off to someone else to use. Dude stretched himself thin doing things that had nothing to do with his department - and he as much as admitted it when I chatted with him before I took the job. As a result, he didn't properly manage their environment at all. There is zero standardization; I've never seen so many PC manufacturers in play at a single business before, let alone the Macs they bent over and gave the Marketing folks. If Frankenstein made a network, THAT network would have made ours.

I'm taking advantage of the lag time between him and me to force people to accept that IT isn't the "do-it-all" department. If the online sales manager thinks I'm going to pick up managing his online sales and product updates for him just because the guy before me did ... well... no.
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IT doesn’t manage content.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:34 pm IT doesn’t manage content.
Except when various users (or the server) ran out of space. :)
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Not sure what's going on, but the TransDev position is apparently "on hold". We were told to "go home and wait for email", and just e-signed several documents today. If we're paid to sit at home, all the better.

EDIT: Was supposed to get a temp login at a certain domain but when I followed the instructions there's nothing to do "Your plan is empty". Hmmm...

EDIT2: Weird, the lesson "just" appeared, and I completed it in a few minutes. Apparently, this job comes with a separate work phone. Hmmm... I don't mind that.

Got an answer back from a place I was pretty sure I had been rejected before. They want me to do a programming test, honors system, guess to weed out the lame ones. Used 2.5 hours to finish 8 out of 10 problems. Last two were regex and jQuery, so was not too worried. Commuting would kinda suck as the office is in Brisbane, not downtown, but it's an interesting company.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:34 pmIT doesn’t manage content.
I had a long chat with the HR manager and she's in support of this theme. She's encouraging me to be a "Disagreeable Helper" - someone who's happy to help, but has firm boundaries. She knows exactly what happened to the guy before me.

I've also had a couple of chats with my direct boss along the same lines and am phrasing it in terms of making people more self-sufficient and efficient. Once someone who has the correct knowledge knows how to get it into the system, they can do it faster than I ever could in translating it for them because they couldn't be bothered to learn.

I'm starting to feel like I was hired as a spearhead attempt at forcing change. Over and over I've heard about them having people who are resistant to learning new skills and wanting someone who can train them. It's a union shop, though, so I don't know what circumstances they need to let someone go who simply refuses to adapt and work towards the future of the business instead of being a stagnant lump. They've more than hinted that they've got a lot of lumps.

I'm embracing the role, though. I'm already planning minor changes to how things come in to my department. Things that will force people to utilize their computers to perform basic tasks they're using paper for right now - if at all. Some folks just walk in with a product and ask for it to be put into the system, with almost no other detail; they expect the guy under me to do the legwork and find the product details. I've already let him know I'm going to be working to stop that and they can call me the hard-ass villain if they want to. The guy who won't let him do it the old way. My boss is actually on board. So that's a thing, I guess.
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Everything's coming up Paingod.
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Paingod wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 8:59 pm I've already let him know I'm going to be working to stop that and they can call me the hard-ass villain if they want to. The guy who won't let him do it the old way.
One of my co-workers told me her daughter asked her how I came about being her boss and in charge of the department.
Her answer was that I annoyed and pissed off everyone with more seniority until they left, then I took over.
I accept that answer.......lol
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Isgrimnur wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 9:01 pmEverything's coming up Paingod.
I even talked my boss into giving me the accounting department head's old office today, too. :) The guy hasn't retired yet, but he's gone full remote with no intention of ever coming back into the state and all his office is doing is holding his computer on his desk. It wasn't hard, though. She said she had been considering it before I got there but my cohort had new shelves put in where we are now and she felt he was maybe content there.

So right now I share a 12x12 cell with my direct report that has a view over a gravel-covered roof and a parking garage across the street. Toss in a couple 24" deep desks and we're sitting about 4' apart. Soon I'll share a 18x12 cell with him that has a view of Main Street and gets direct sunlight half the day instead of dim shade. I've got my eye on the corner that keeps my monitor out of direct line of sight from the doorway so I can actually, just maybe, do a smidge of free-time surfing again and post a bit during the day.
stimpy wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 9:26 pmOne of my co-workers told me her daughter asked her how I came about being her boss and in charge of the department.
Her answer was that I annoyed and pissed off everyone with more seniority until they left, then I took over.
If you can piss off everyone who's dug in and hunkered down enough to force them to leave, you probably deserve to take over. They should have been able to squash that if they were worth keeping. It sounds cold, but the more I move up in the workforce, the less tolerance I have for people who don't try. As an hourly worker with no investment in any company, it was funny. As someone who's been basically given a blank slate and told to draw my own map, it's really annoying - like writing on a textured desk with only one sheet of paper under your pen.

I plan to keep pushing boundaries here and there until someone pushes back hard enough to stop me. I haven't even finished my second week there, but I'm starting to see potential in the place despite the lack of funding in my department (and across the board in general). I haven't felt optimism like this in years.
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Being a change agent can be a good thing as long as the company has your back. They might even have an ulterior motive of getting rid of the complacent who they suspect would be most resistant to change. Just don't expect many after-work drinking binges with your mates. Look to Rumpy's avatar for more reasons why.
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Complacency was the main reason I pissed them off.
Even though they had seniority, it shouldnt give them license to do little to jack shit on a daily basis.
I guess if me calling them out and expecting them to actually, ya know, do their job, bugged them enough to bail instead of step up, it turned out best for the company. Not everyone can be everywhere and see everything. Once the higher ups saw how much more efficient the department ran after they left, they figured I was doing something right and promoted me.
My department has been the profit leader for the company ever since. And the employees I'm in charge of seem pretty happy with the way I manage. I dont anticipate any of them leaving anytime soon.
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need an AI program where you feed it keywords and it outputs a resume cover letter (that ofc you can further tweak)
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stimpy wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 11:03 pm Complacency was the main reason I pissed them off.
Even though they had seniority, it shouldnt give them license to do little to jack shit on a daily basis.
I guess if me calling them out and expecting them to actually, ya know, do their job, bugged them enough to bail instead of step up, it turned out best for the company. Not everyone can be everywhere and see everything. Once the higher ups saw how much more efficient the department ran after they left, they figured I was doing something right and promoted me.
My department has been the profit leader for the company ever since. And the employees I'm in charge of seem pretty happy with the way I manage. I don't anticipate any of them leaving anytime soon.
Bravo. It amazes me how many people do not grasp this concept of happy employees equals better performance. That's why the group I lead is one of the better performing business offices at the center and always get high appraise. I keep my nose out of their business, they do their job and help others in the group when they need it. I step in only when they ask. First 1/2 hour of work each morning is drink coffee and talk (not about work) and now teleworking we still have a hour teams meeting weekly just to talk about anything but work. So many people still think a minute wasted not doing work is wasted company time instead of time working on employee morale. Down side is no one wants to leave for detail opportunities in other areas, they are too happy. I have to stress if you want to grow you've got to expand you skills.
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Sounds like you're the SCRUM master without all the terminology. :)
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I am 3rd semester at my university. And working as a software developer in a small company.
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Josebaker wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 11:13 am I am 3rd semester at my university. And working as a software developer in a small company.
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