Octopus Overlords

Holman wrote:The big drama of Numenor is that Sauron seduces its rulers to the Dark Side of the Force, even leading them to attempt an invasion of the far Western Undying Lands across the sea. The island is eventually sunk beneath the waves with some Numenoreans escaping and making it to mainland Middle-earth.

Sauron at this time is a seductive and beautiful superhero rather than a giant eye and shadow, so he could easily be a main character with dialogue and everything.

Fun fact: in early versions of his writing, JRRT imagined the Numenoreans as having almost 19th-century levels of technology, complete with steam-powered battleships. This dropped away in published versions.

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:43 pm Man, how cool would it be if the elves all drove Camaros?

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:43 pm Man, how cool would it be if the elves all drove Camaros?

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:58 pm Ooooh damn, son. You’re laying’ down some solid ideas. And what if Gandalf showed up in a van....with Gandalf painted on its side!?

Next up: why the dwarves should all be leather daddies.

Sudy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:59 am

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:43 pm Man, how cool would it be if the elves all drove Camaros?

Yeah! And we could have the orcs stand in for minorities/poor people and have Will Smith be the chosen one!

hepcat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:24 pm

Sudy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:59 am

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:43 pm Man, how cool would it be if the elves all drove Camaros?

Yeah! And we could have the orcs stand in for minorities/poor people and have Will Smith be the chosen one!

Well, that went places I didn't expect.

hepcat wrote:Ah, got it. I was a little surprised there until you put it in context.

Not a big fan of Bright. Interesting concept dumbed down for Hollywood...or at least that's how it felt to me.

hepcat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:03 pm Let's be honest: If Tolkien had known about muscle cars and cool ass vans back in his day, those things would have been all over Middle Earth.

hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:20 am Refresh my memory, the hobbits were a metaphor for people who ate too much and were short, right?

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:11 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:20 am Refresh my memory, the hobbits were a metaphor for people who ate too much and were short, right?

He wrote them to represent the British 'common man.'

While having a few cast members drop out is not an intrinsic sign of trouble, it represents a trend mirrored behind the scenes. Notably, the once-promising consultancy of former Game of Thrones writer Bryan Cogman abruptly ended before the pilot was completed, according to TheOneRing. Along with an array of producer exits, the production also declined the services of artist John Howe, a longtime illustrator and map-maker for J.R.R. Tolkien literature, who—along with fellow legend Alan Lee—set the mythology’s live-action aesthetic template as one of the lead artists on director Peter Jackson’s The Lord of the Rings film trilogy. Additionally, prominent Tolkien scholar Tom Shippey, who was serving as a consultant on the series, “unamicably” exited.

All of these exits are being attributed to creative differences, a fairly common reason writers or directors leave. However, the apparent rejection of Amazon’s approach by authoritative voices in the Tolkien world makes this appear ominous, especially regarding the ambitious scope of the series and its adherence to the overwhelmingly intricate lore—specifically set in Middle Earth’s Second Age, which is over 3,000 years before the author’s main novels.

Amazon Studios' The Lord of the Rings television show is going to cost all the gold in the Lonely Mountain.

The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed that Amazon will spend roughly NZ$650 million — $465 million in U.S. dollars — for just the first season of the show.

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By comparison, HBO's Game of Thrones cost roughly $100 million to produce per season, with its per-episode cost starting at around $6 million for season one and eventually rising to around $15 million per episode in season eight.

The eye-popping Lord of the Rings price tag almost certainly doesn’t reflect season one’s production cost alone. The rights to the Tolkien property cost an estimated $250 million. Plus there are considerable startup costs when bringing Middle Earth to life — such as sets, costumes and props — that will be used throughout the series.

Holman wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:40 pm WAR OF THE ROHIRRIM is said to be "set in the same universe as the Peter Jackson films," which I assume refers more to visual style.

Holman wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:40 pm WAR OF THE ROHIRRIM is said to be "set in the same universe as the Peter Jackson films," which I assume refers more to visual style than to the fact that they're both in Tolkien's Middle-earth.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:16 pm I dont get the sexless nudity point. So? Big deal I say. More dwarves in fountains then Im to assume?

Why is your brother bathing in the fountain?
Thats me sister laddy.
But...the beard.
Yes its a fine one aint it.