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Re: 2021 is truly the best year to upgrade your GPU

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stessier wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:31 pm How about not upgrading until 2023?
I guess it's ok. I think my 3080 will probably work until then... :twisted:
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Smoove_B wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:07 pm That sounds...not great. I wonder if I should just accept that a 20xx card is going to be better than what I'm rolling with now? I'm always of the mind that upgrading a computer voluntarily is better than replacing one in an emergency....

I'd seen that Cyberpower had a 20xx Intel system coming back in stock.
I'm pretty glad I finally got off the fence and ordered a new system last month, I saw that they've already raised the price on it by about €120. I can't think of a time when things have ever gotten this crazy before.
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I just looked and they do have 30xx systems for sale right now with a 6+ week lead time. So I guess they're expecting something to magically show up. But yeah, prices are insane.
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Smoove_B wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:01 pm I just looked and they do have 30xx systems for sale right now with a 6+ week lead time. So I guess they're expecting something to magically show up. But yeah, prices are insane.
Solid 3070 system for $1800 available in North Jersey Microcenter:
https://www.microcenter.com/product/630 ... toreid=075

I got the 3080 from the same manufacturer around a month ago and it has been solid. If you check daily, early mornings you might see a 3080 show up for a bit more($2400).
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I've definitely migrated away from PC Gaming, even before the pandemic, and GPU availability/cost has been the number one factor. I used to pretty much wait and then buy a good last gen card at a good price (around the $200 range) when the new generations came out, but that approach hasn't been useful for over 5 years, I'd say. As such, I just don't really like upgrade treadmill as much as I used to. Pandemic work at home the past year plus has further cemented this, as Couch Console gaming gets me away from the home office work location.
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I also caved and went with a Microcenter PC a few months ago instead of waiting for a Falcon or Digital Storm PC.
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We've been looking at building Lila a computer vs a pre built laptop. Enough to play games like roblox, and stuff for school.

Saw a deal at costco for a MSI gaming laptop for about $500 after rebate. Nothing fancy, but enough to run what she plays.

I went to see how much we paid for Ethan's video card a few years ago. My Geforce 970 blew up so we had to buy a new card, adding to our cost. We paid like $160 for a Radeon 570. Went to check the prices for something similar and the same card was at least double the cost.

I told Erin that there's no way I can build this pc within the same price area. Prebuilt is finally a better option. Never thought I'd say that.
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Yeah the gaming PC world is totally upside down due to the chip shortage - which may last through next year or longer. You will save money buying a prebuilt gaming PC (or laptop) over building your own for the foreseeable future.

On another note, the same thing is happening with the auto industry. If you are in the market for a car (new or used), I would try to get one soon. I expect the price of new/used cars to go up soon and for a while.

The chip shortage is going to be painful and it will linger for some time.
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coopasonic wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:24 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:01 pm I just looked and they do have 30xx systems for sale right now with a 6+ week lead time. So I guess they're expecting something to magically show up. But yeah, prices are insane.
Solid 3070 system for $1800 available in North Jersey Microcenter:
https://www.microcenter.com/product/630 ... toreid=075

I got the 3080 from the same manufacturer around a month ago and it has been solid. If you check daily, early mornings you might see a 3080 show up for a bit more($2400).
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The Meal wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:08 pm RMAed my RTX 2060 6GB yesterday after I couldn't get my machine past the BIOS select screen, and reinstalled my R9 390. After an evening of spurious reboots (Chrome being too much of a load if I already had Discord and PokerStars open along with driving two monitors), I recall why I purchased the nVidia card in November 2019. Hopefully the repair process goes quickly, as I don't think I can live with one scaled down monitor and babysitting my GPU temps for the six weeks they anticipate it'll take for my repair...

I'd probably save money by purchasing a 1060 Ti 3GB (just $500, used!) if only because this Radeon I'm currently running pulls something insane like 300W. Of course, the turn-around time on one of those cards is also measured in weeks, so maybe I just turn off the PC until June.
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Speaking of the 2060, MSI has acknowledged that my RMA has arrived on their shores, and estimates 15-35 business days of repair turn-around. BUSINESS. DAYS. Ugh.
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Wow, he sure is fired up based on a LOT of assumptions.

I guess that's what happens when you have a YT channel dedicated to a product that no one can buy anymore. :D

Also, angry video card dude, I can assure you "Nvidia" is not sitting around wondering how to make people happy.
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Shareholders are people. Allegedly.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:51 pm Shareholders are people. Allegedly.
1. Make as much money as possible, in the shortest time possible. Making money in THIS quarter trumps pretty much everything else PAST this quarter.
2. If "people" are happy about how we do 1. above, bonus!

I think very very few very large, publicly traded companies these days put customer happiness first (or maybe even second). And I'm not talking about what the CEO SAYS, or their mantras, or anything else. SOLELY talking about IN REALITY, at the level where managers and directors are making decisions like this guy is talking about.
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Just saw some report that maybe there's an issue with the 30xx cards and a recent Win10 update too now? NVIDIA is advising rolling back the Win10 update?

Maybe just buying a pre-built with the best 20xx card is the way to go right now.
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Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:22 pm I think very very few very large, publicly traded companies these days put customer happiness first (or maybe even second). And I'm not talking about what the CEO SAYS, or their mantras, or anything else. SOLELY talking about IN REALITY, at the level where managers and directors are making decisions like this guy is talking about.
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Smoove_B wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:01 pm Just saw some report that maybe there's an issue with the 30xx cards and a recent Win10 update too now? NVIDIA is advising rolling back the Win10 update?

Maybe just buying a pre-built with the best 20xx card is the way to go right now.
Can confirm the issue - had to rollback a security update. It made several games into slide shows for me. That being said, it's squarely on Microsoft and I'd never give up my 3080. :)
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