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Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:14 am
by Blackhawk
I know this is a long shot, but we have a few keyboard aficionados here. Does anyone know of an affordable wireless ergonomic mechanical keyboard? Those four adjectives - I can find any combination of three, but not all four.

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:01 am
by TheMix
I did that search too. I'm pretty sure the answer is "no". I ended up skipping the "mechanical" requirement. Though I was also looking for a small footprint one. But I don't remember seeing an affordable one at any size.

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:54 am
by hitbyambulance
'wireless' was unimportant to me, but 'affordable' and 'ergonomic' mechanical is still not cheap.

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:23 pm
by Blackhawk
TheMix wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:01 am Though I was also looking for a small footprint one.
I'd prefer that, too, but I didn't want to push my luck.

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:19 pm
by Daehawk
No idea. Just dont buy Razer. Maybe Logitech has something.

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:16 pm
by Pyperkub
hitbyambulance wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:54 am 'wireless' was unimportant to me, but 'affordable' and 'ergonomic' mechanical is still not cheap.
IMHO, "wireless" is actually a drawback. having a keyboard (or mouse) die on you and being forced to find batteries with a charge is (for me) a non starter.

and yes, if you find a mechanical MS natural keyboard, please post. Until then, meh.

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:32 pm
by Blackhawk
This is for my work area, something I can stick out of the way when not in use. I'd rather deal with batteries once every few months than deal with both a cord and a keyboard tray in my way daily. I've already swept my box of assorted toothpicks/stirrers/pipettes onto the floor with the keyboard cord once.

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:27 pm
by Pyperkub
Blackhawk wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:32 pm This is for my work area, something I can stick out of the way when not in use. I'd rather deal with batteries once every few months than deal with both a cord and a keyboard tray in my way daily. I've already swept my box of assorted toothpicks/stirrers/pipettes onto the floor with the keyboard cord once.
Having dealt with far too many employees begging for batteries which the department didn't purchase for them when I also wore a desktop support hat...

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:18 pm
by TheMix
Battery life on my Microsoft one is well over 6 months. And I use it daily for work.

But it's not mechanical.

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:33 pm
by Blackhawk
And we have a pile of good rechargeables. They're cheap these days, and good ones hold their charge for a long, long time while sitting in a box. When they get charged they go into the 'charged' box. When you swap out a battery, they go in the 'dead' box. Then, every now and then I just toss all the dead in the charger and bump them up to the 'charged' box. In fact, every few months I tend to do a tour around the house swapping out batteries just to keep everything running.

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:13 am
by hitbyambulance
speaking as a mechanical keyboard supremacist... i actually find the Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic to be just fine, even though it's not mechanical. it feels all right to type on, and it meets the rest of your requirements. totally worth trying out:


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Microsoft-Sc ... t/31390903

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:41 am
by Kasey Chang
Blackhawk wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:14 am I know this is a long shot, but we have a few keyboard aficionados here. Does anyone know of an affordable wireless ergonomic mechanical keyboard? Those four adjectives - I can find any combination of three, but not all four.
Pretty sure it doesn't exist. Ergonomic AND mechanical? You're pretty much down to like 2-3 choices, ErgoDox (and variants), or Kinesis Freestyle, which is really just split, not ergonomic. It does have a BT version. There's also the Mistel Barocco which is smaller and also has a BT version.

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:29 am
by Blackhawk
I really liked the look of the Kinesis, but the price - that I didn't like as much.

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:15 pm
by Kasey Chang
There used to be Unikeyboard Diverge 4, another split ergo, but I think they went out of business. Domain name was never renewed , and FB page had not been updated since like 2019

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:50 pm
by infinitelurker
I would love it if Microsoft put out a mechanical ergonomic.

I used Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000 keyboards for years and years, until the replacement ones seemed to go a bit downhill in key travel feel.

I moved to the Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic for awhile when it was released, and was happy with the feel of it. However, with my software development use, I wanted larger function keys and an attached 10-key.

So, I moved to the Surface Ergonomic Keyboard when it came out and love it. The only thing I wish it would add would be the ability to connect to multiple devices and switch between them with a button press, like the Microsoft Bluetooth Ergonomic Mouse can do (which looks recently refreshed and now takes AAA batteries vs a built in rechargable).

A less expensive option and somewhat-replacement for the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000 is the newer Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard. I have one of these as well, and the key feel is better than the 4000 replacements I had over the years, but I prefer the Surface line key travel.

Re-reading the above, it looks like I go through too many keyboards. :D

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:44 am
by Kasey Chang
Pretty sure the cheapest option around is the Bluetooth version of Mistel Barrocco, which is basically a split-60%. Wireless, "ergo", mechanical, and at under $200 (as low as $150) cheapest option of them all. Any cheaper and it won't be mechanical (like Gold Touch)

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:52 pm
by hitbyambulance
infinitelurker wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:50 pm
I moved to the Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic for awhile when it was released, and was happy with the feel of it. However, with my software development use, I wanted larger function keys and an attached 10-key.
i'll push this one again as probably the ideal candidate for Blackhawk's use case - no, it's not mechanical, but i think it makes up for that with the other requested attributes, and the key travel feeling of this keyboard is all right

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:32 pm
by Blackhawk
And it is probably where I will end up. It's sad that you can get a decent wireless mechanical traditional keyboard for a reasonable price (under $50), but ergonomics seem to start at $150.

Re: Keyboards, keyboards, keyboards

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:40 pm
by Kasey Chang
Ergo is a much more limited market though. Kinesis used to be 300+