Zarathud wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:33 am
Drazzil’s fantasy is as dangerous as Trump himself.
Who will convict? The Republicans won’t even vote to investigate. There is zero chance they will vote to punish their own.
The conservative Supreme Court isn’t going to support broad application of RICO and treason. Nor will a jury when you’re likely to get one or two Trumpers.
If Democrats start the precedent of broadly prosecuting the Republicans, how bad is it going to get if crazy Republicans win again? You know Trump asked if he could prosecute Hillary. He’s even more unhinged now.
The only way we’re going to survive the existing prosecutions of Trump is that they pre-existed his Presidency.
Okay. Let me be clearer. The Republicans at the federal level. In the house? In the Senate? At the state level? Lets investigate all those guys. Everyone that enabled the attack on the capital. Everyone who voted against the commission or refused to certify Biden's win. Scoop em up. Hit em with terrorism charges. Use the laws they wrote against them. Make them "enemy combatants". Pump them for information. LEGALLY AS THE LAWS ARE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS WRITTEN BY REPUBLICANS TAKE AWAY THEIR DUE PROCESS. Unroll the GOP at the federal and state level with RICO. Present evidence of the criming to the American people.
As far as who would vote to convict? Who cares? Lets grab a jury of our own choosing. Lets bend that jury selection pool a bit. As far as the Supreme court not allowing it? Lets arrest Trumps SC picks. Find some dirt on them and impeach them. It should be easy enough. They're scumbags. Drop like a hundred charges on them and deny bail. That would be enough to terrify the others to fall in line. Oh and Madison v. Marbury is still out there. The supreme court granted themselves the power to dictate how we govern. That was NOT how the founding fathers envisioned them. Lets reopen that discussion.
So. What I am suggesting is not exactly illegal. Is it authoritarian? Yes. Is it a tad fashy? Maybe? Can it use the existing laws on the books to give it an air of legality? Absolutely. And without this kind of action. OUR. COUNTRY. IS. DEAD.
Not just the "Republic" Fuck the republic. That ship has sailed.
See. Here's the thing. The monster truck of... I dunno what to call it. Empire? Post republic America? Its already out there. Keys in the ignition idling. Deep throaty purr of its engine roaring for all to hear. Door open. That's not gonna change. Our system is already dead. Everyone knows it. That monster truck is here to stay. Democracy and the Republic have already been fatally discredited. The only thing remaining is to decide who jumps in the diver seat and takes off. Americans are already sick of "Democracy" My generation especially.
The Republicans will use that thing to disenfranchise blacks, Make the poor poorer, and generally speaking drive it over anyone who isn't the one percent. If the Republicans drive this monster truck down the road they wanna drive it. Down that road lies madness. Syrian style civil war, A prison state. The return of Jim Crow.
Now if the Democrats are smart and they do what I suggested? Well. That's a different road. Maybe not that horrible road the Republicans wanna drive us down. Maybe that's that road our country stays together, where there is no civil war. Maybe that's the road where we can take another swing at democracy in 30 or so years. Who knows?
Sooooo. I have derailed this thread enough. I am sorry for that. Maybe, I'll post another thread on my views of what's going down. Maybe you guys will actually respond. That'd be good. I'm sorry that I went out into the weeds.