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Now it's Niger

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Niger is a country on that big continent where none of us can label all the countries. I can only get a few of them, anyway. Quick: what's the capital of Niger? But Niger recently had a coup that we can't call a coup yet, and it matters. So congratudolences, Niger, you get a thread.

Protesters attach French embassy while West African leaders talk tough
Demonstrators in the capital, Niamey, many waving Russian flags, smashed windows at the French embassy and set a perimeter door on fire but never breached the walls of the embassy compound
Sounds spontaneous. :roll:
The 15-nation Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) gave the coup leaders one week to reverse their seizure of power or face possible military intervention.

“In the event the authorities’ demands are not met within one week (ECOWAS will) take all measures necessary to restore constitutional order in the Republic of Niger. Such measures may include the use of force,” ECOWAS said in a statement.

ECOWAS said it was suspending all financial transactions with Niger, freezing Niger’s assets in central and commercial banks and imposing a travel ban and asset freeze on military officers involved in the coup.

The Army officers who lead the coup in Niger said earlier that the ECOWAS bloc was on the verge of orchestrating a military intervention in the country.

Niger has been the anchor for Western counter-terrorism efforts across the turbulent Sahel region, with roughly 1,100 U.S. troops operating drones and training local forces to fight Islamist extremists.
Why it's not a coup:
U.S. officials have condemned the military officers’ seizure of power but have so far avoided using the word “coup.” Under U.S. law, such a declaration would require halting all American aid to the country and the end of all security cooperation with Niger.

U.S. officials told NBC News the situation remained fluid and it was unclear if the coup would hold. But they acknowledged that the strong statement from the ECOWAS summit may have increased tension in Niger
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I am curious about the Russian flags. Even assuming that Russia provided support and assistance to the coup, wouldn't they not want the protestors waving Russian flags around? Typically countries sponsoring coups want to keep their assistance quiet, so that they can pretend that the coup is purely an expression of popular will. Are the protestors waving Russian flags because they dislike France / the U.S. and Russia is known as an enemy of those countries?
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El Guapo wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:51 pm I am curious about the Russian flags. Even assuming that Russia provided support and assistance to the coup, wouldn't they not want the protestors waving Russian flags around? Typically countries sponsoring coups want to keep their assistance quiet, so that they can pretend that the coup is purely an expression of popular will. Are the protestors waving Russian flags because they dislike France / the U.S. and Russia is known as an enemy of those countries?
Subtlety is so passé. The world loves straight shooters.

Also, Wagner still operates in Mali so maybe they decided to spice things up:
Reuters wrote:In a voice message published last week on social media channels linked to Russia's mercenary Wagner Group, its founder Yevgeny Prigozhin appeared to endorse the coup, and to offer the services of his fighters to the junta.
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So that's not the same as Nigeria? Like Bulgar and Bulgaria?
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The BBC has a good primer on why Niger matters, the main players, etc....
The juntas in Mali and Burkina Faso have warned Ecowas against military intervention in Niger, saying it would be a "declaration of war" and they would go to defend their fellow coup leaders. So military intervention risks snowballing into a full-scale conflict.

However, Ecowas has previously sent troops to numerous countries - including Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea-Bissau and The Gambia - either to help end civil wars, reinstate deposed presidents or to force out leaders who refused to accept electoral defeat.

These interventions were in accordance with its mandate to maintain "peace, stability and security within the region", though its troops were also accused in some instances of human rights abuses.
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OOOOOOOOOOOh, I thought this was about Nigeria. Didn't realize these were two different countries.
Never mind.
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dbt1949 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:27 am OOOOOOOOOOOh, I thought this was about Nigeria. Didn't realize these were two different countries.
Never mind.
Africa is always a learning opportunity. I didn't know they were separate but bordering countries either.
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Used to watch Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? Whenever the final round was Africa, the kid was almost certainly not going to win.

This kid did manage it.

It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:16 pm Used to watch Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? Whenever the final round was Africa, the kid was almost certainly not going to win.
Well, either that or the kid ain't no snitch.
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Nice.
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ECOWAS has set a "D-Day" (but it's secret)
"We are ready to go anytime the order is given," ECOWAS Commissioner for Political Affairs, Peace and Security Abdel-Fatau Musah said during the closing ceremony. "The D-Day is also decided, which we are not going to disclose."

He said a peaceful resolution remained the bloc's preferred option.
I think they're bluffing, based on my vast knowledge of inter-African relations.
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