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Lagom Lite wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:33 am Oh, and if I were a leftie living in the States I would probably be getting myself some firearms and gun lessons right about now. Those "nuts" touting civil war may sound like hyperbole, but if Trump wins - heck, even if he loses - you know there's going to be violence.
From something I read recently, first time firearm purchases by left leaning citizens (and possibly black as well but can't remember) are way up in very recent years. I do wonder if the spike happened after Jan 6.
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Lagom Lite wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:33 amThere's nothing else to do. Get out the vote. Oh, and if I were a leftie living in the States I would probably be getting myself some firearms and gun lessons right about now. Those "nuts" touting civil war may sound like hyperbole, but if Trump wins - heck, even if he loses - you know there's going to be violence.
Speaking of which, should he win, would you happen to have space on your couch for a family of three? I promise none of us are werewolves. :D
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Carpet_pissr wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:04 pm
Lagom Lite wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:33 am Oh, and if I were a leftie living in the States I would probably be getting myself some firearms and gun lessons right about now. Those "nuts" touting civil war may sound like hyperbole, but if Trump wins - heck, even if he loses - you know there's going to be violence.
From something I read recently, first time firearm purchases by left leaning citizens (and possibly black as well but can't remember) are way up in very recent years. I do wonder if the spike happened after Jan 6.
It happened at the start of COVID and ramped up during the BLM protests. But it also happened to a lesser but noticeable degree after Charlottesville, after the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, etc. Jan 6 probably saw a bump too but I've never seen anything like COVID and BLM.
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Remus West wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:40 pm
Lagom Lite wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:33 amThere's nothing else to do. Get out the vote. Oh, and if I were a leftie living in the States I would probably be getting myself some firearms and gun lessons right about now. Those "nuts" touting civil war may sound like hyperbole, but if Trump wins - heck, even if he loses - you know there's going to be violence.
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Remus West wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:40 pm
Lagom Lite wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:33 amThere's nothing else to do. Get out the vote. Oh, and if I were a leftie living in the States I would probably be getting myself some firearms and gun lessons right about now. Those "nuts" touting civil war may sound like hyperbole, but if Trump wins - heck, even if he loses - you know there's going to be violence.
Speaking of which, should he win, would you happen to have space on your couch for a family of three? I promise none of us are werewolves. :D
We got our own fascist problem over here. I may have to bump you over to Germany. :oops:
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Lagom Lite wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:24 pm
Remus West wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:40 pm
Lagom Lite wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:33 amThere's nothing else to do. Get out the vote. Oh, and if I were a leftie living in the States I would probably be getting myself some firearms and gun lessons right about now. Those "nuts" touting civil war may sound like hyperbole, but if Trump wins - heck, even if he loses - you know there's going to be violence.
Speaking of which, should he win, would you happen to have space on your couch for a family of three? I promise none of us are werewolves. :D
We got our own fascist problem over here. I may have to bump you over to Germany. :oops:
NPR has been reporting that Germany has had been actively working on trying to keep fascists out of their government but that the effort is beginning to fail because the fascists have been caucusing with the far right in government, giving them more leverage. It sounds all too familiar.
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Remus West wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:40 pm Speaking of which, should he win, would you happen to have space on your couch for a family of three? I promise none of us are werewolves. :D
First American werewolves in London and Paris, now this! Sneaky American werewolves.
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LordMortis wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:27 pm
Lagom Lite wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:24 pm
Remus West wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:40 pm
Lagom Lite wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:33 amThere's nothing else to do. Get out the vote. Oh, and if I were a leftie living in the States I would probably be getting myself some firearms and gun lessons right about now. Those "nuts" touting civil war may sound like hyperbole, but if Trump wins - heck, even if he loses - you know there's going to be violence.
Speaking of which, should he win, would you happen to have space on your couch for a family of three? I promise none of us are werewolves. :D
We got our own fascist problem over here. I may have to bump you over to Germany. :oops:
NPR has been reporting that Germany has had been actively working on trying to keep fascists out of their government but that the effort is beginning to fail because the fascists have been caucusing with the far right in government, giving them more leverage. It sounds all too familiar.
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coopasonic wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:15 pm All over the world the people are (re)learning the power of hate.
It's fucking horrifying.

We're going to be a chapter in the history books. Killed the planet. Decided democracy is for chumps. Killed each other. Created social media.

We are monsters.
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LordMortis wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:27 pm
Lagom Lite wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:24 pm
Remus West wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:40 pm
Lagom Lite wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:33 amThere's nothing else to do. Get out the vote. Oh, and if I were a leftie living in the States I would probably be getting myself some firearms and gun lessons right about now. Those "nuts" touting civil war may sound like hyperbole, but if Trump wins - heck, even if he loses - you know there's going to be violence.
Speaking of which, should he win, would you happen to have space on your couch for a family of three? I promise none of us are werewolves. :D
We got our own fascist problem over here. I may have to bump you over to Germany. :oops:
NPR has been reporting that Germany has had been actively working on trying to keep fascists out of their government but that the effort is beginning to fail because the fascists have been caucusing with the far right in government, giving them more leverage. It sounds all too familiar.
There are folks talking about how this event was overblown. The fascists (AFP) aligned with the Conservative party (CDU) on a vote. The CDU said it wasn't coordinated and they couldn't stop the AFP members for happening to vote for their measure. Still AFP has been steadily gaining in members over the last few years - especially in the former East Germany. Guess they miss the good old days of authoritarianism.
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waitingtoconnect wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:33 pm https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/05 ... jesus.html

Trump is like Jesus. Apparently.
We established yesterday that evangelicals are leaving Jesus behind because he was too woke. Trump is their real savior.
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Kraken wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:54 pm
waitingtoconnect wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:33 pm https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/05 ... jesus.html

Trump is like Jesus. Apparently.
We established yesterday that evangelicals are leaving Jesus behind because he was too woke. Trump is their real savior.
I mean this is how religions are created. In a thousand years Steve "The Baptist" Banon may be a saint.
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GreenGoo wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:35 pm
coopasonic wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:15 pm All over the world the people are (re)learning the power of hate.
It's fucking horrifying.

We're going to be a chapter in the history books. Killed the planet. Decided democracy is for chumps. Killed each other. Created social media.

We are monsters.
Some future generation or alien species will note that social media:
"Hey, that looks interesting/useful. Lets recreate that!"
And the cycle of doom begins again...
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