Yeah, it's possible, I still like my vote for now until something better comes along!El Guapo wrote:It's really not a fairly strong case, nor do I really think that he (Punisher I'm assuming is who you are referring to) actually incriminated himself. He was just throwing out Star Wars lines.Vorret wrote:One guy pretty much accidentally incriminated himself, sucks he's the new guy but it's a fairly strong case against him (better than a random person, though I agree lynching silent players is a good idea).
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
Actually that should also put me on the chopping block as I intimated that I was Darth Revan..Vorret wrote:One guy pretty much accidentally incriminated himself, sucks he's the new guy but it's a fairly strong case against him (better than a random person, though I agree lynching silent players is a good idea).
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I can't put 2 votestru1cy wrote:Actually that should also put me on the chopping block as I intimated that I was Darth Revan..Vorret wrote:One guy pretty much accidentally incriminated himself, sucks he's the new guy but it's a fairly strong case against him (better than a random person, though I agree lynching silent players is a good idea).
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Perhaps we should vote Vorret. He is Canadian after all. Which means his government is not nearly as much of a mess as ours and I'm jealous. Lets punish him for not having to deal with the crap coming out of DC.
Although, I still like my Newcastle vote for equally strong reasons.
Although, I still like my Newcastle vote for equally strong reasons.
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
In this game, which avatar would be the seer? Remember, I'm new so not up on all the terms.El Guapo wrote:Yeah, the way you build up reliable information over time is that via lynches and night kills you find out known information about particular players, then you examine how other (living) players interacted with them, and who voted for whom (and when). Also over time some players will claim roles (truthfully or otherwise) and supply additional information.Isgrimnur wrote:Day 1 is always a crapshoot, especially if that's the start, what with no information to go on.
My rule is that Remus is always a good target for a night kill. If he survives too long, it's usually because he's evil.
But on day 1, there's really nothing reliable to go on, so usually we thrash around randomly, someone says something that sounds vaguely incriminating if you squint, we almost lynch them, they reveal themselves to be the Seer, and then we lynch some other random villager.
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Or can you?Vorret wrote:I can't put 2 votestru1cy wrote:Actually that should also put me on the chopping block as I intimated that I was Darth Revan..Vorret wrote:One guy pretty much accidentally incriminated himself, sucks he's the new guy but it's a fairly strong case against him (better than a random person, though I agree lynching silent players is a good idea).
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You are pretty keyed in on that power. Is that so you don't forget to use it?Holman wrote:Or can you?Vorret wrote:I can't put 2 votestru1cy wrote:Actually that should also put me on the chopping block as I intimated that I was Darth Revan..Vorret wrote:One guy pretty much accidentally incriminated himself, sucks he's the new guy but it's a fairly strong case against him (better than a random person, though I agree lynching silent players is a good idea).
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"Poke the innocents"El Guapo wrote: The slip up is the "something that sounds vaguely incriminating if you squint." It's something we do, but I don't recall a time when a slip up actually revealed something useful. Usually it just provides a reason to finally pick a day 1 lynch.
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
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Hey! Nobody remembers that game. Nobody remembers I won that game on team evil. By talking them into lynchingvyhe Priest which was literally their only losing move iirc.Lassr wrote:"Poke the innocents"El Guapo wrote: The slip up is the "something that sounds vaguely incriminating if you squint." It's something we do, but I don't recall a time when a slip up actually revealed something useful. Usually it just provides a reason to finally pick a day 1 lynch.
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Playing the newb, eh? I've seen that before...Punisher wrote: In this game, which avatar would be the seer? Remember, I'm new so not up on all the terms.
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Well I truly am a newb, but I have updated my avatar to reflect my intentions with BF.Holman wrote:Playing the newb, eh? I've seen that before...Punisher wrote: In this game, which avatar would be the seer? Remember, I'm new so not up on all the terms.
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That's it.. This proves he is evil!Vorret wrote:You're all weird. WEIRD!
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Because he is stating what everyone already knows.
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Can't argue with that logicRMC wrote:That's it.. This proves he is evil!Vorret wrote:You're all weird. WEIRD!
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Because he is stating what everyone already knows.
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Vorret
I thought we had a ban on Canadians, eh?
I thought we had a ban on Canadians, eh?
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Well you guys are being very mean to a nice Canadian!!
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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He's going to burrow right under that northern wall! Even the permafrost can't stop him!
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Aren't Canadians responsible for global warming in order to get rid of the permafrost?Isgrimnur wrote:He's going to burrow right under that northern wall! Even the permafrost can't stop him!
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I really don't want to pile on the new player, but Punisher's "rebel scum" definitely registered.
I will hold off redlining him for now.
I will hold off redlining him for now.
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I am not the lynch you are looking for.Holman wrote:I really don't want to pile on the new player, but Punisher's "rebel scum" definitely registered.
I will hold off redlining him for now.
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And I'm going to go with the theory that the wolves would not target the new guy. (If he's a wolf, obviously they won't. If he's a villager, they want an inexperienced player to survive.) They're going to want to playfully pile on one of the veteran players, but not the *obvious* veterans.
The pile-on against Vorret (by Scoop, RMC, Moliere) is thus suspicious to me. Moliere took the opportunity to go third there, making it a solid thing.
Hey, why not?
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The pile-on against Vorret (by Scoop, RMC, Moliere) is thus suspicious to me. Moliere took the opportunity to go third there, making it a solid thing.
Hey, why not?
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
It's much easier to spectate.
As much as I could pile on the sacrificial Canadian, Remus West started that train -- and then held back. Remus pings me wrong, but let's see if he survives the night.
Why not, indeed?
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As much as I could pile on the sacrificial Canadian, Remus West started that train -- and then held back. Remus pings me wrong, but let's see if he survives the night.
Why not, indeed?
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
I agree, the third guy on the vote looks a little suspicious.
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Did I accidentally sign up for a game of inception?Holman wrote:And I'm going to go with the theory that the wolves would not target the new guy. (If he's a wolf, obviously they won't. If he's a villager, they want an inexperienced player to survive.) They're going to want to playfully pile on one of the veteran players, but not the *obvious* veterans.
The pile-on against Vorret (by Scoop, RMC, Moliere) is thus suspicious to me. Moliere took the opportunity to go third there, making it a solid thing.
Hey, why not?
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
PunisherPunisher wrote:I am not the lynch you are looking for.Holman wrote:I really don't want to pile on the new player, but Punisher's "rebel scum" definitely registered.
I will hold off redlining him for now.
I want to test this..
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I find your lack of faith disturbing.tru1cy wrote:PunisherPunisher wrote:I am not the lynch you are looking for.Holman wrote:I really don't want to pile on the new player, but Punisher's "rebel scum" definitely registered.
I will hold off redlining him for now.
I want to test this..
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
How many votes for a lynch, is it a simple majority?
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Question.. and I'm sure I missed it somewhere...
How does one win this game?
Are we all just looking for a personal win like in a free for all or is this more of a team deathmatch?
How does one win this game?
Are we all just looking for a personal win like in a free for all or is this more of a team deathmatch?
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
Teams.
Evil wins when they are equal in number to good.
Good wins when all the Evil are dead.
Evil wins when they are equal in number to good.
Good wins when all the Evil are dead.
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
And, it's important to note that you win with your team, so you may 'take one for the team', if it promotes their victory.Chaosraven wrote:Teams.
Evil wins when they are equal in number to good.
Good wins when all the Evil are dead.
I swear some players don't get that and will try and stay alive at any and all costs.
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
btw, people should probably declare a role if they get a N -2 with Dooku in play
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I'm not Canadian. What more do you need to know?tru1cy wrote:btw, people should probably declare a role if they get a N -2 with Dooku in play
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
HEY BB2112!
Question about Joruus' evil free scan:
He gets it if he is in on the lynch of a wolf or "a Jedi." Jedi means *only* Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, yes? So a lynch on Mon Mothma or Talon Kaaarrrrde gets him nothing?
This leads to another question:
Do we learn the alignment and role of people lynched, or just the alignment, or neither?
Question about Joruus' evil free scan:
He gets it if he is in on the lynch of a wolf or "a Jedi." Jedi means *only* Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, yes? So a lynch on Mon Mothma or Talon Kaaarrrrde gets him nothing?
This leads to another question:
Do we learn the alignment and role of people lynched, or just the alignment, or neither?
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I keep thinking if punisher is on the bad team, surely his teammates would have filed him in by now that he sure looks evil. Then again they may say now that the cats already out of the bag so run with it.
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
I remember a certain *cough* *cough* newbie fooling the heck out of me before. For all you know he has teammates coaching right now about how to keep acting dumb. That said I'm not so sure thats the case this time. I'm more interested in Vorret's claim that Canadians aren't evil when we all know they are.Lassr wrote:I keep thinking if punisher is on the bad team, surely his teammates would have filed him in by now that he sure looks evil. Then again they may say now that the cats already out of the bag so run with it.
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
I thought that nobody knew who anyone was so how could any team have a coach?
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1
The evil team has its own private forum where they can communicate behind the scenes. (AS YOU NO DOUBT KNOW!!!)Punisher wrote:I thought that nobody knew who anyone was so how could any team have a coach?
The rest of us are limited to open talk on the game forum. In fact, private messages WRT to the game are against the rules.
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*"WRT the game," not "WRT to the game."
Another rule (usually--I assume it's the case here) is that editing your posts in the game forum is forbidden.
Another rule (usually--I assume it's the case here) is that editing your posts in the game forum is forbidden.
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Must have missed the private forum thing. I thought nobody knew who any one was.
If evil knows each other, then all kills they make are known good guys so it would seem it is easier for them. In fact, if they just stay quiet, all kills would be random except for theirs so I would think they have a much easier path to victory...
If evil knows each other, then all kills they make are known good guys so it would seem it is easier for them. In fact, if they just stay quiet, all kills would be random except for theirs so I would think they have a much easier path to victory...
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But then people who didn't vote or take part in the byplay would look suspicious. Since *someone* has to get lynched every day, everyone's behavior is being watched. Not voting or not justifying your vote is a sure way to look like you're hiding something.Punisher wrote:Must have missed the private forum thing. I thought nobody knew who any one was.
If evil knows each other, then all kills they make are known good guys so it would seem it is easier for them. In fact, if they just stay quiet, all kills would be random except for theirs so I would think they have a much easier path to victory...
The Evils want to ferret out the Good special roles and get them killed early (preventing scans and protection, etc). It's even better if they can get it done with a lynch rather than at night, since this casts suspicion on everyone who bought in (some of whom will necessarily be non-Evils), driving future lynches.
BUT YOU KNOW ALL OF THIS ALREADY BECAUSE YOUR MASTERS HAVE TOLD YOU TO ASK BASIC QUESTIONS MAYBE!!!
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I hope I'm doing good.. master..Holman wrote: BUT YOU KNOW ALL OF THIS ALREADY BECAUSE YOUR MASTERS HAVE TOLD YOU TO ASK BASIC QUESTIONS MAYBE!!!
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