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Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:11 pm**

Hrothgar wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:28 pm Thus far the general consensus has been:

1. Mike Richards (The Jeopardy producer that had to fill in for two weeks)
2. Ken Jennings
3. Katie Couric
4. Dr. Oz (Personally, he was about on par with Couric, but so many vocal people hate him online that he ends up on the bottom.)

Rodgers hasn't done enough yet. Assuming he gets better with reps, he'll easily pass the last two.

My personal list is:
1. Ken Jennings
2. Mike Richards
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3. Katie Couric
4. Dr. Oz
5. Aaron Rogers

Rogers has no shot to move up. Just too monotone and wooden. Above the line could be the regular host although I did like Katie but didn't think I'd like her in the role long term. I much preferred Jennings to Mike Richards and I got the feeling Mike didn't want to do the job anyway. He also executive produces Wheel of Fortune so it might be a lot for him.

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:19 am**

Bill Belichick turns 69 today - and somewhere Gronk is smiling and doesn't know why.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:56 pm**

Alex Smith just retired.

Glad he got to play a bit more before the end.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:23 pm**

stessier wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:56 pm Alex Smith just retired.

Glad he got to play a bit more before the end.

Big sigh of relief. I cringed every time he dropped back. He proved he could defy reality, that's good enough.

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:44 am**

Sporting News

The NFL relaxing its rules means there are certain groups who can now opt to wear single-digit jersey numbers. Previously, only quarterbacks, punters and kickers could have single digits. Now, that's been expanded to include tight ends, wide receivers, running backs and defensive backs.

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:55 am**

Why does the NFL have rules restricting player jersey numbers by position at all?

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:56 am**

El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:55 am Why does the NFL have rules restricting player jersey numbers by position at all?

To easily identify eligible receivers on offense. No idea on defense.

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:00 am**

stessier wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:56 am
El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:55 am Why does the NFL have rules restricting player jersey numbers by position at all?
To easily identify eligible receivers on offense. No idea on defense.

[Saints]
So they know who to ignore on pass interference calls.
[/Saints]

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:38 am**

So, the Eagles traded out of Pick 6 and moved back to 12. Defensible move, even if it does mean they'll likely miss out on one of the top WRs.

But now, I'm hearing they're trying to work a deal to move up from 12 and get back in the top 10.

We'll see how it all works out, but, given past draft history, I am far from optimistic.

Posted: **Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:03 pm**

The #Panthers are trading QB Teddy Bridgewater to the #Broncos for a sixth-round draft pick, per source.

So Carolina will be grabbing a QB at the #8 pick, and presumably Denver will not at #9.

Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:14 pm**

Shit might get strange tonight, as news is out that Aaron Rodgers appears to want out of Green Bay.

Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:42 pm**

pr0ner wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:14 pm Shit might get strange tonight, as news is out that Aaron Rodgers appears to want out of Green Bay.

I saw that. Wanting is not getting, but where the heck could he end up? And what team would neglect to draft a QB in hopes of taking a shot at Rodgers.

Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:44 pm**

Jaymann wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:42 pm
pr0ner wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:14 pm Shit might get strange tonight, as news is out that Aaron Rodgers appears to want out of Green Bay.
I saw that. Wanting is not getting, but where the heck could he end up? And what team would neglect to draft a QB in hopes of taking a shot at Rodgers.

San Fran checked in on Rodgers' availability yesterday, even after trading the moon to move up to #3 overall.

Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:47 pm**

pr0ner wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:44 pm
Jaymann wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:42 pm
pr0ner wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:14 pm Shit might get strange tonight, as news is out that Aaron Rodgers appears to want out of Green Bay.
I saw that. Wanting is not getting, but where the heck could he end up? And what team would neglect to draft a QB in hopes of taking a shot at Rodgers.
San Fran checked in on Rodgers' availability yesterday, even after trading the moon to move up to #3 overall.

Maybe they can peddle that spot to GB...

Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:50 pm**

Jaymann wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:47 pm
pr0ner wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:44 pm
Jaymann wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:42 pm
pr0ner wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:14 pm Shit might get strange tonight, as news is out that Aaron Rodgers appears to want out of Green Bay.
I saw that. Wanting is not getting, but where the heck could he end up? And what team would neglect to draft a QB in hopes of taking a shot at Rodgers.
San Fran checked in on Rodgers' availability yesterday, even after trading the moon to move up to #3 overall.
Maybe they can peddle that spot to GB...

Could you imagine Rodgers running Kyle Shanahan designed bootlegs for the rest of his career? It would be pretty amazing.

Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:54 pm**

Also, way to steal the headlines on draft day, Aaron.

Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:06 pm**

Just when you thought you've heard it all, Tim Tebow is attempting a comeback with the Jags...as a tight end!

Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:23 pm**

49'ers regain sanity and take Trey Lance instead of Mac Jones.

Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:42 pm**

Uh oh ImLawboy hope you are

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Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:49 pm**

Jaymann wrote:49'ers regain sanity and take Trey Lance instead of Mac Jones.

Thank God they didn't pick McCorcle or traded for Rodgers. Sit Lance ride Jimmy his last year. Jimmy stays healthy were fine

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Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:55 pm**

Lol

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Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:03 pm**

YES! Rashawn Slater falls to the Chargers at #13. Some had him rated higher than Penei Sewell. He opted out this year so should be freeeeeesh.

Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:17 pm**

Pats scrape up the dregs with Mac Jones.

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:23 am**

As someone who doesn't follow college football, why should I be disappointed with the Jones pick?

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:16 am**

stessier wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:23 am As someone who doesn't follow college football, why should I be disappointed with the Jones pick?

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:29 am**

I'm supposed to be disappointed because of his body?

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:54 am**

I know Travis Etienne got all the hype due to playing at Clemson, but I have a hard time believing he's going to be a better NFL RB than Javonte Williams from UNC. Just look at the numbers from last year:

Williams- 157 attempts 1,140 yards 7.3 avg 19 tds 25 rec 305 yards 12.2 avg 3 tds

Etienne - 168 attempts 914 yards 5.4 avg 14 tds 48 rec 588 yards 12.3 avg 2 tds

And then consider that Etienne was playing behind a better line and with an arguably better QB (that's another discussion) against pretty much the same opposition.

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:06 am**

stessier wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:29 am I'm supposed to be disappointed because of his body?

You asked for a reason to be disappointed, so I gave you one. Not sure what else you want!

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:10 am**

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:54 am I know Travis Etienne got all the hype due to playing at Clemson, but I have a hard time believing he's going to be a better NFL RB than Javonte Williams from UNC. Just look at the numbers from last year:

Williams- 157 attempts 1,140 yards 7.3 avg 19 tds 25 rec 305 yards 12.2 avg 3 tds

Etienne - 168 attempts 914 yards 5.4 avg 14 tds 48 rec 588 yards 12.3 avg 2 tds

And then consider that Etienne was playing behind a better line and with an arguably better QB (that's another discussion) against pretty much the same opposition.

This does leave out that Etienne's sophomore and junior seasons featured over 1600 yards rushing and at least 23 rushing touchdowns.

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:17 am**

stessier wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:23 am As someone who doesn't follow college football, why should I be disappointed with the Jones pick?

My understanding is that the main concerns are: (1) he's not as naturally athletic as the other top-tier QB prospects; and (2) he played with arguably the most talented offensive college team of all time (especially the Alabama receiver corps). So basically the question is whether he's really good, or whether Alabama's success was more the result of having incredibly talented wide receivers. And if he's not, he doesn't have pure physical gifts to fall back on.

Still seems like a worthwhile prospect to me.

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:25 am**

naednek wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:42 pm Uh oh ImLawboy hope you are

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I know that it's a combination of spending multiple draft picks to trade up and pick up an OSU QB (such a legendary history in the NFL), but I'm actually good with this. I've had the displeasure of watching him in college for a couple of years, and I think he's going to be really, really good in the NFL. (Bookmark this post to come back at me with in a few years.)

No snark intended, but I'm just glad they didn't pull anything like that to get Trey Lance. He might end up being really good, but he seems a huge gamble at the third pick, particularly when he likely would have still been available at a much lower slot. The Niners are really taking this Ryan Pace simulation a bit too far.

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:35 am**

El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:17 am
stessier wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:23 am As someone who doesn't follow college football, why should I be disappointed with the Jones pick?
My understanding is that the main concerns are: (1) he's not as naturally athletic as the other top-tier QB prospects; and (2) he played with arguably the most talented offensive college team of all time (especially the Alabama receiver corps). So basically the question is whether he's really good, or whether Alabama's success was more the result of having incredibly talented wide receivers. And if he's not, he doesn't have pure physical gifts to fall back on.

Still seems like a worthwhile prospect to me.

Not naturally athletic? Sounds like a guy the Pats picked up in the 6th a few years back.

Hopefully he does not work out nearly that well.

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:41 am**

I feel a little bad for Zach Wilson getting picked at #2 to the Jets. He's was a decent college QB, but he primarily racked up big numbers against terrible competition and was fairly mediocre against any team with a pulse. In games against teams that ended the season with 10+ wins, Wilson went 0-5 with 1 TD and 7 INTs. In his two games against rival Utah, he threw more TD's to Utah (3 pick 6's) than he did to his own team (2 TD passes).

The Jets are hoping for the next Josh Allen, but I'm afraid he'll be closer to Johnny Manziel (without the character issues). Maybe I'm just biased because he's from BYU, but I just don't see him being the next big thing.

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:43 am**

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:41 am I feel a little bad for Zach Wilson anyone getting picked at #2 to the Jets.

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:52 am**

El Guapo wrote:
stessier wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:23 am As someone who doesn't follow college football, why should I be disappointed with the Jones pick?
My understanding is that the main concerns are: (1) he's not as naturally athletic as the other top-tier QB prospects; and (2) he played with arguably the most talented offensive college team of all time (especially the Alabama receiver corps). So basically the question is whether he's really good, or whether Alabama's success was more the result of having incredibly talented wide receivers. And if he's not, he doesn't have pure physical gifts to fall back on.

Still seems like a worthwhile prospect to me.

It's like Patriots fans forgot what Brady looked like before he was drafted

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Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:55 am**

ImLawBoy wrote:
naednek wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:42 pm Uh oh ImLawboy hope you are

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I know that it's a combination of spending multiple draft picks to trade up and pick up an OSU QB (such a legendary history in the NFL), but I'm actually good with this. I've had the displeasure of watching him in college for a couple of years, and I think he's going to be really, really good in the NFL. (Bookmark this post to come back at me with in a few years.)

No snark intended, but I'm just glad they didn't pull anything like that to get Trey Lance. He might end up being really good, but he seems a huge gamble at the third pick, particularly when he likely would have still been available at a much lower slot. The Niners are really taking this Ryan Pace simulation a bit too far.

Yep. I don't think we even need a qb but that ship has sailed.

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Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:59 am**

pr0ner wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:10 am
Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:54 am I know Travis Etienne got all the hype due to playing at Clemson, but I have a hard time believing he's going to be a better NFL RB than Javonte Williams from UNC. Just look at the numbers from last year:

Williams- 157 attempts 1,140 yards 7.3 avg 19 tds 25 rec 305 yards 12.2 avg 3 tds

Etienne - 168 attempts 914 yards 5.4 avg 14 tds 48 rec 588 yards 12.3 avg 2 tds

And then consider that Etienne was playing behind a better line and with an arguably better QB (that's another discussion) against pretty much the same opposition.
This does leave out that Etienne's sophomore and junior seasons featured over 1600 yards rushing and at least 23 rushing touchdowns.

That's fair. Just means he has more tread on the tires than Javonte.

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:00 am**

As I hoped for earlier, I am joyful that teams fell over themselves to draft largely marginal quarterbacks, allowing Slater to fall to the Chargers. Since four teams (at least) ranked Mac Jones the fifth best QB in this draft, I just jumped on the mock wagon.

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:15 am**

Remus West wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:35 am
El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:17 am
stessier wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:23 am As someone who doesn't follow college football, why should I be disappointed with the Jones pick?
My understanding is that the main concerns are: (1) he's not as naturally athletic as the other top-tier QB prospects; and (2) he played with arguably the most talented offensive college team of all time (especially the Alabama receiver corps). So basically the question is whether he's really good, or whether Alabama's success was more the result of having incredibly talented wide receivers. And if he's not, he doesn't have pure physical gifts to fall back on.

Still seems like a worthwhile prospect to me.
Not naturally athletic? Sounds like a guy the Pats picked up in the 6th a few years back.
Hopefully he does not work out nearly that well.

Yeah, he is getting Brady comparisons. But you know, just because one not super athletic QB became a hall-of-famer, doesn't necessarily mean that you should regularly draft not super athletic QBs.

Anyway, I'm excited about Jones, even though the prevailing wisdom seems to be down on him at the moment.

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:04 am**

stessier wrote:I'm supposed to be disappointed because of his body?

I wouldn’t say disappointed. Skeptical maybe? I get like Matt Leinart vibes from him. How hard is it to play QB in college when you are on a super team? The playmakers he had in college are significantly better than what will be around him in NE (except at TE).

But he’s the most pro ready QB this year they say. The last time I heard that it was applied to Josh Rosen.

I wouldn’t be disappointed, but I wouldn’t be excited either.

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