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bb trade tobacco for 5
Is trade sugar for 2
CR trade tobacco for 4
Qa trade coffee for 6
  • sugar Is
  • corn CR
  • coffee
  • coffee
  • corn Qa
  • corn
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Corn for me, with a colonist working it due to the hospice.
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  • sugar Is
  • corn CR
  • coffee
  • coffee
  • corn Qa
  • corn RW
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Coffee
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One coffee is discarded. Here's the new draw:
  • sugar
  • indigo
  • sugar
  • sugar
  • corn
  • indigo
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Mayor.

Black Market, Corn, Corn.
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As mine can only go on one of the Indigo plantations put the little guy on either one.
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Wharf
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One new colonist to Quarry

One new colonist to Corn
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Isgrimnur to populate. Whatever he does, there are 5 colonists on the incoming ship.

Qantaga to select from:
  • Builder
  • Captain +1
  • Craftsman +1 RW
  • Mayor CR
  • Prospector +1
  • Prospector
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  • Trader bb
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Thinking...
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As much as I want to play Captain, it doesn't seem wise at the moment, so:

Builder

Buy University for 5 doubloons (7 - priv - quarry).
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colonist on indigo.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Small Indigo Plant for 1 Doubloon.
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no build
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Large sugar mill for 2.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Lg market for 4 plus VP.
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Gimme a bit to turn over the round.
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Isgrimnur wrote:Large sugar mill for 2.
Large sugar mill costs 4. Are you looking to buy a small sugar mill, or do you wish to change your order?
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Isgrimnur wrote:colonist on indigo.
Colonist on indigo farm, or colonist on indigo plant?
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Grundbegriff wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:Large sugar mill for 2.
Large sugar mill costs 4. Are you looking to buy a small sugar mill, or do you wish to change your order?
I think he has 2 manned Quarries.
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Grundbegriff wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:Large sugar mill for 2.
Large sugar mill costs 4. Are you looking to buy a small sugar mill, or do you wish to change your order?
I have two manned quarries. Does that not reduce the cost?
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Isgrimnur wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:Large sugar mill for 2.
Large sugar mill costs 4. Are you looking to buy a small sugar mill, or do you wish to change your order?
I have two manned quarries. Does that not reduce the cost?
Pardon. My memory failed me. Large it is.

Where's your colonist going to land? Indigo plantation or small indigo plant?
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Start of Round 08:

Victory Point Chips: more than 110
Colonists in supply: 49
Colonists on inbound ship: 5
Coffee crates in supply: 8
Tobacco crates in supply: 2
Sugar crates in supply: 7
Indigo crates in supply: 4
Corn crates in supply: 2
Trade House: (1) --- (2) --- (3) --- (4) ---
Cargo Ship #6: corn, corn, corn, corn, _____, _____
Cargo Ship #7: tobacco, tobacco, _____, _____, _____, _____, _____
Cargo Ship #8: indigo, indigo, indigo, indigo, _____, _____, _____, _____
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
History: Round 01
Qantaga: Settler(quarry); RW (tobacco); bb (sugar); Is (coffee); CR (tobacco)
Remus West: Builder (tobacco 4); bb (sm sugar 2); Is (pass); CR (blk market 2); Qa (sm indigo 1)
bb2112: Mayor (2, sfarm, sm sugar); Is (1, kfarm); CR (1, cfarm); Qa (1, q); RW (1, ???)
Is: Prospector 1
CR: Prospector 1

History: Round 02
Remus West: Mayor (2, tobacco, tobsto); bb (1, indigo); Is (1, corn); CR (1, blkmrk); Qa: (1, indigo, ind plnt)
bb2112: Builder (sm market 0); Is (sm sugar 2); CR (sm market 1); Qa (pass); RW (pass)
Is: Settler (sugar); CR (tobacco); Qa (coffee); RW (tobacco); bb (tobacco)
CR: Trader 1 (-); Qa (-); RW (-); bb (-); Is (-)
Qantaga: Craftsman 1 (2indigo); RW (1tobacco); bb (1sugar); Is (1corn); CR (1corn)

History: Round 03
bb2112: Prospector (2)
Is: Mayor (2, sug, sugm); CR (1, sm mkt); Qa (1, qu); RW (1, tob); bb (sm mkt)
CR: Captain 2 (1corn); Qa (2indigo); RW (1tobacco); bb (-); Is (1corn)
Qantaga: Builder (coffee 4); RW (-); bb (sm indigo 1); Is (blk mkt 2); CR (tobacco 4)
Remus West: Prospector (2)

History: Round 04
Is: Settler 1 (quarry); CR (corn); Qa (sugar); RW (indigo); bb (sugar)
CR: Mayor (2 tob sto, mv blk to corn); Qa (1 cof farm, q to ro); RW (1 tob sto); bb (1 sm ind); Is (1 q, cof to blk)
Qantaga: Craftsman 1 (1indigo, 2coffee); RW (2tobacco); bb (1indigo); Is (1corn, 1sugar); CR (2corn, 1sugar)
Remus West: Trader 1 (tob 3 + 1); bb (sug 2+1); Is (-); CR (corn 0+1); Qa (cof 4)
bb2112: Builder (tob sto 4+1); Is (storeh 3blk); CR (-); Qa (lg mkt 5); RW (hospice 4)

History: Round 05
CR: Mayor (2 tob farms, 1 to blk mkt); Qa (1 lg mkt); RW (1 tob ro); bb (1 tob, ind to tob sto); Is (1 storeh)
Qantaga: Captain 1 (1indigo +1); RW (1tob); bb (1indigo); Is (1corn); CR (1corn)
Remus West: Settler (tob); bb (ind); Is (ind); CR (cof); Qa (cof)
bb2112: Prospector 1
Is: Craftsman (1corn, 1sugar); CR (1corn, 2tob); Qa (1ind, 1cof); RW (3tob); bb (1sug, 1tob)

History: Round 06
Qantaga: Prospector +2 (3)
Remus West: Trader +1 (tobacco + 1); bb (sugar 2); Is (-); CR (corn +1); Qa (coffee 5)
bb2112: Builder +1 (wharf 9); Is (sm indigo blk-VP); CR (office blk-VPcolcorn); Qa (office 5); RW (spec fact 8)
Is: Settler (quarry); CR (tobacco); Qa (corn); RW (corn); bb (indigo)
CR: Mayor (1tob, 1tobro, mv blk to off); Qa (corn); RW (spec); bb (ind); Is (quarry)

History: Round 07
Remus West: Craftsman 1 (2corn, 3tobacco); bb (1indigo, 1sugar); Is (1corn, 1sugar); CR (---); Qa (1corn, 1indigo, 1coffee)
bb2112: Trader (tobacco 5); Is (sugar 2); CR (tobacco 4); Qa (coffee 6); RW (---)
Is: Settler (sugar); CR (corn); Qa (corn); RW (corn1); bb (coffee)
CR: Mayor (blkmkt, corn, corn); Qa (corn, qua); RW (indigo); bb (wharf); Is (indigo)
Qantaga: Builder (library 5); RW (sm indigo 1); bb (---); Is (lg sugar 2); CR (lg market 4 + VP)

°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
The number on the left is the price in doubloons. For worker capacity and VP value, see the BUILDINGS section above.
As these are acquired, I'll put them under erasure and mark them with the initial of the owner Qa, RW, bb, Is, or CR.

Bank Board
Column 1
(1) [small indigo plant Qa] [small indigo plant bb] [small indigo plant Is] [small indigo plant rw]
(2) [small sugar mill bb] [small sugar mill Is] [small sugar mill] [small sugar mill]
(1) [small market bb] [small market CR]
(2) [black market CR] [black market Is]
(2) [forest house] [forest house]
(3) [storehouse Is] [storehouse]
Column 2
(3) [large indigo plant] [large indigo plant] [large indigo plant]
(4) [large sugar mill Is] [large sugar mill] [large sugar mill]
(4) [hospice RW] [hospice]
(5) [office CR] [office Qa]
(5) [large market Qa] [large market CR]
(6) [large warehouse] [large warehouse]
Column 3
(5) [tobacco storage RW] [tobacco storage CR] [tobacco storage bb]
(6) [coffee roaster Qa] [coffee roaster] [coffee roaster]
(7) [university Qa] [university]
(8) [specialty factory RW] [specialty factory]
(8) [library] [library]
(9) [wharf bb] [wharf]
Column 4
(10) [guild hall]
(10) [residence]
(10) [fortress]
(10) [customs house]
(10) [statue]
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1: Qantaga
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 06
Idle Colonists: 0
Employed Colonists: 08
Crates on Hand: Corn: 01, Indigo: 02, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:01

Code: Select all

[u][b]Plantations and workers[/b][/u]: 
 [indigo farm_________1] [coffee______________1] [sugar_______________0] [coffee______________0]
 [corn________________1] [corn________________1] [_____________________] [_____________________]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________] [quarry______________1]

Code: Select all

[u][b]Buildings and workers[/b][/u]:
 [sm indigo plant___1/1] [coffee roaster____1/2] [_____________________] [_____________________]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________] [office____________0/1]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [university________0/1] [lg market_________1/1]
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°

2: Remus West
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 02
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 11
Crates on Hand: Corn: 02, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 05, Coffee:00

Code: Select all

[u][b]Plantations and workers[/b][/u]: 
 [indigo farm_________1] [tobacco_____________1] [tobacco_____________1] [indigo farm_________0]
 [tobacco_____________1] [corn________________1] [corn________________1] [_____________________]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________]

Code: Select all

[u][b]Buildings and workers[/b][/u]:
 [tobacco storage___3/3] [sm indigo plant___0/1] [_____________________] [_____________________]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________] [specialty factory_1/1]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________] [hospice___________1/1]
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°

3: bb2112
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 05
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 08
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 01, Sugar: 02, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00

Code: Select all

[u][b]Plantations and workers[/b][/u]: 
 [indigo farm_________1] [sugar_______________1] [tobacco_____________1] [sugar_______________0]
 [indigo farm_________0] [indigo farm_________0] [coffee______________0] [_____________________]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________]

Code: Select all

[u][b]Buildings and workers[/b][/u]:
 [sm sugar mill_____1/1] [sm indigo plant___1/1] [tobacco storage___1/3] [_____________________]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________] [wharf_____________1/1]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________] [sm market_________1/1]
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°

4: Isgrimnur
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 00
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 08
Crates on Hand: Corn: 01, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 02, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00

Code: Select all

[u][b]Plantations and workers[/b][/u]: 
 [corn farm___________1] [coffee______________0] [sugar_______________1] [indigo______________1]
 [sugar_______________0] [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [quarry______________1] [quarry______________1]

Code: Select all

[u][b]Buildings and workers[/b][/u]:
 [sm sugar mill_____1/1] [sm indigo plant___0/1] [lg sugar mill_____0/3] [_____________________]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________] [storehouse________1/1]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________] [black market______1/1]
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°

5: Chaosraven
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 00
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 11
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00

Code: Select all

[u][b]Plantations and workers[/b][/u]: 
 [corn farm___________1] [tobacco_____________1] [tobacco_____________1] [corn farm___________1]
 [coffee______________0] [tobacco_____________1] [corn farm___________0] [_____________________]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________]

Code: Select all

[u][b]Buildings and workers[/b][/u]:
 [tobacco storage___3/3] [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [lg market_________0/1] [sm market_________1/1]
 [_____________________] [_____________________] [office____________1/1] [black market______1/1]
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
Rocks:
  • quarry Qa
  • quarry Is
  • quarry Is
  • quarry
  • quarry
  • quarry
  • quarry
  • quarry
Farms:
  • sugar
  • indigo
  • sugar
  • sugar
  • corn
  • indigo
Options:
  • Builder
  • Captain +1
  • Craftsman
  • Mayor
  • Prospector +1
  • Prospector +2
  • Settler
  • Trader
As always, please let me know of any discrepancies!

Welcome to Round 08, the second governorship of bb2112!
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In addition to needed Isgrimnur's word about where his colonist belongs (see above), I'd like to know from each of you which game information you're finding useful. Specifically:

(1) Are the photos useful?
(2) Are the ascii boards useful?
(3) Are the round histories useful?

Is there anything that would be useful that I'm not doing?

Thanks!
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Grundbegriff wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:colonist on indigo.
Colonist on indigo farm, or colonist on indigo plant?
Farm is fine.
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Although I haven't been using the pics much up to this point, I'll prob. start using the Bank board more frequently. I tens to use text-based more for things such as the shipping, plantations and role selection.

I haven't used the round histories much, but as has been established, I have no idea what I'm doing. :)
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Isgrimnur wrote:I haven't used the round histories much, but as has been established, I have no idea what I'm doing. :)
Are you having fun?
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 02: Summer Scorpion

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Grundbegriff wrote:In addition to needed Isgrimnur's word about where his colonist belongs (see above), I'd like to know from each of you which game information you're finding useful. Specifically:

(1) Are the photos useful?
(2) Are the ascii boards useful?
(3) Are the round histories useful?

Is there anything that would be useful that I'm not doing?

Thanks!
I have liked all three although I use the round histories less than the pictures and ascii boards. Those two tend to get examined each turn. Which is probably why I'm not looking at the histories much as I reconstruct each round on every players action. :D

I have to admit I wasn't sure how this would go in this format but it has worked wonderfully thus far and is a ton of fun. Thanks for doing this.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 02: Summer Scorpion: GAME ON!

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Grundbegriff wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:I haven't used the round histories much, but as has been established, I have no idea what I'm doing. :)
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Isgrimnur wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:I haven't used the round histories much, but as has been established, I have no idea what I'm doing. :)
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 02: Summer Scorpion: GAME ON!

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Grund, I am having a lot of fun with this game! Thanks for running. I have been having such good time, that I went out and bought the iPad version.

As far as the tools, I have been using the pictures the most. I could probably live without the rest of the info if I had to, but I would be lost without your boards. Grat job on running this by the way. :D

For my action I will take prospector for 3 dabloons.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 02: Summer Scorpion: GAME ON!

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As I cannot see the pix on my phone, the ascii boards are best for me, though I do skip over the recap most times.
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So it sounds as if the round histories are the least useful. The pics and ascii boards are probably all we need in addition to the occasional summary of supplies.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 02: Summer Scorpion: GAME ON!

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The update of supplies and buildings is very useful
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Chaosraven wrote:The update of supplies and buildings is very useful
+1
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I'll take the other prospector for 2.
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Two money grabs. Selection is Chaosraven's.
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Maybe you should just give CR mayor. His play reminds of the Lions when they draft.
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