[Chaosravenz WW] Eternal Night... all Hail the Fallen
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- Crux
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Because, you know, a year ago when I chose this image I knew that this game would take place, and I wanted to represent my side in advanceRalph-Wiggum wrote:What is this?
Darkness!
Kill Crux.
In all seriousness, I'd start a list of suspects, and cross them off/add to them as we go. In the last Vampire game (triggercuts) I got two of the three vamps on my 'guess in the dark' list. So I'll start a similar list here and modify it as we go.
Clearly innocent:
Drazzil - surely no Fall Angel would... surely not.
Kelric - too obvious. he's been a bad guy in almost every game so far.
Mr Bubbles - having just wrapped up triggercut's vampire game in which he was the alpha vamp, I doubt he'd end up a bad guy in another game right away. Possible but unlikely.
Possible Choices for Fallen:
UsulofDoom - With a name like that, it'd be an irresistable choice for any First. I mean surely no First would choose someone with the name Doom? Right?
Crux - I'm a decent ally, but probably a bit on the obvious side. Being neither Seeker nor Linked, I can't prove my innocence at this stage though
Ralph Wiggum - He played a solid werewolf game a while back, and he pulls off the 'who me?' innocent act.
Noxiousdog - In the same boat as me. A good ally, but possibly too obvious.
St Dysan - Would be a great under-the-radar choice.
Schroeder - See above
Ceekay - Again see above.
Any thoughts anyone?
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Drazzil as the alpha would be absolutely priceless if he were lynched on night one. PRICELESS.
Black Lives Matter
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
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Drazzil getting picked would be hilarious, just because. But he's also barely spoken in the other game he's involved in.Crux wrote:Clearly innocent:
Drazzil - surely no Fall Angel would... surely not.
It's all random odds as Alpha, but not everyone reads the games they aren't actively playing in. I've almost never read any of the other games.Mr Bubbles - having just wrapped up triggercut's vampire game in which he was the alpha vamp, I doubt he'd end up a bad guy in another game right away. Possible but unlikely.
True. That cat of his totally throws you off.Ralph Wiggum - He played a solid werewolf game a while back, and he pulls off the 'who me?' innocent act.
The under the radar choices usually manage to get one person as a vamp/werewolf, as do the obvious ones. It's the ones that fall into neither group that are the tricky ones.
For now, I still like the age old strategy of lynching the quiet ones. The early game is always the most difficult when there's no hints whatsoever.
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ME?...under the radar?....WHY oh WHYCrux wrote:Because, you know, a year ago when I chose this image I knew that this game would take place, and I wanted to represent my side in advanceRalph-Wiggum wrote:What is this?
Darkness!
Kill Crux.
In all seriousness, I'd start a list of suspects, and cross them off/add to them as we go. In the last Vampire game (triggercuts) I got two of the three vamps on my 'guess in the dark' list. So I'll start a similar list here and modify it as we go.
Clearly innocent:
Drazzil - surely no Fall Angel would... surely not.
Kelric - too obvious. he's been a bad guy in almost every game so far.
Mr Bubbles - having just wrapped up triggercut's vampire game in which he was the alpha vamp, I doubt he'd end up a bad guy in another game right away. Possible but unlikely.
Possible Choices for Fallen:
UsulofDoom - With a name like that, it'd be an irresistable choice for any First. I mean surely no First would choose someone with the name Doom? Right?
Crux - I'm a decent ally, but probably a bit on the obvious side. Being neither Seeker nor Linked, I can't prove my innocence at this stage though
Ralph Wiggum - He played a solid werewolf game a while back, and he pulls off the 'who me?' innocent act.
Noxiousdog - In the same boat as me. A good ally, but possibly too obvious.
St Dysan - Would be a great under-the-radar choice.
Schroeder - See above
Ceekay - Again see above.
Any thoughts anyone?
How come NPC got nailed the first night when there was talk earlier in the thread of 'hurrying up' and lynching him...some bad JuJu going on
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Let me know too please.pr0ner wrote:If you are the seeker, the archangel, or are linked, please PM me.
Black Lives Matter
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
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I'm Spartacus.Orinoco wrote:Heck, everybody just post their roles here - that will make it easier!!noxiousdog wrote:Let me know too please.pr0ner wrote:If you are the seeker, the archangel, or are linked, please PM me.
Black Lives Matter
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
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Who? Me?Crux wrote: Ralph Wiggum - He played a solid werewolf game a while back, and he pulls off the 'who me?' innocent act.
But seriously, there's no way I'm getting picked to be a fallen (unless I managed to be the alpha - which I'm not) because no one trusts me and it's likely I'll get lynched early. Just look what happened in the last vampire game when triggercut picked me. That didn't turn out well. The same probably goes for noxiousdog.
If I was an alpha, I'd pick the quiet ones that aren't likely to be scrutinized as heavily.
edit: just to be clear, the game in which triggercut picked me wasn't the Lars game, but the game before (we just both happened to be werewolves in Lars game).
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Somebody has to do it. It worked for Grund in the last Vampire game.UsulofDoom wrote:You would have to be one of the fallen to ask such a question. But then you all may think it's me since i pointed that out. Very confusing I must say.pr0ner wrote:If you are the seeker, the archangel, or are linked, please PM me.
Black Lives Matter
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
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Clear indictation of.....well....of.....well.......Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Who? Me?Crux wrote: Ralph Wiggum - He played a solid werewolf game a while back, and he pulls off the 'who me?' innocent act.
But seriously, there's no way I'm getting picked to be a fallen (unless I managed to be the alpha - which I'm not) because no one trusts me and it's likely I'll get lynched early. Just look what happened in the last vampire game when triggercut picked me. That didn't turn out well. The same probably goes for noxiousdog.
If I was an alpha, I'd pick the quiet ones that aren't likely to be scrutinized as heavily.
edit: just to be clear, the game in which triggercut picked me wasn't the Lars game, but the game before (we just both happened to be werewolves in Lars game).
I say we lynch Ralph-Wiggum for confusing me.
note: NOT bolded intentionally I am not ready to vote for anyone just yet, although I like Crux's idea of a list so will put my own up when I get time today.
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Come on! It has to be Drazzil. Comedy gold!Remus West wrote: note: NOT bolded intentionally I am not ready to vote for anyone just yet, although I like Crux's idea of a list so will put my own up when I get time today.
Black Lives Matter
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
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There's no way to guess who the alpha Fallen is, because that's purely random. But we can make some guesses about whom the Fallen would choose. Out of the list of players, these are the ones I might suspect:
Smutly
Tru1ncy
Drazzil
St_Dysan
ArmyOfOne
Schroeder
Orinoco
Am I right in believing that all the Fallen have been notified? Or has the alpha not chosen his Fallen yet?
Smutly
Tru1ncy
Drazzil
St_Dysan
ArmyOfOne
Schroeder
Orinoco
Am I right in believing that all the Fallen have been notified? Or has the alpha not chosen his Fallen yet?
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Alright I put together my "under the radar" list:
Drazzil
St_Dysan
ArmyOfOne
UsulofDoom
Schroeder
Orinoco
Kraegor
I would have included J.D. but I think he is under the radar for me more because his short nick doesn't stick in my mind than for actually not posting much in these threads.
Of these folks I think
Orinoco would be very dangerous as a quite one as he pulled it off masterfully before.
ArmyOfOne is a tricky bastard as he showed in the monty python game we just played.
St_Dysan tends to be low on the radar but actually seems to post quite a bit in his games, he will be off for a while and then be back on which could be a tricky Bob or just his posting style so he is a hard read for me.
Drazzil has joined a couple of games but not been posting much in any of them.
Schroeder, UsulofDoom, and Kraegor just fly completely under my radar, probably more my fault than theirs for not reading a variety of threads/forums, but I have no idea what to expect from them.
Please note that these are my "under the radar" picks. Picks like Kelric, who seems to get killed one way or the other every game, or Ralph-Wiggum, who seems to be a bad guy every game, do not count in that catagory.
My "obivously suspicious list" on which these guys would fall includes the rest of us not mentioned already save for J.D. who I am undecided about where to place. I think "under" but just feel like I see his name more than that.
Drazzil
St_Dysan
ArmyOfOne
UsulofDoom
Schroeder
Orinoco
Kraegor
I would have included J.D. but I think he is under the radar for me more because his short nick doesn't stick in my mind than for actually not posting much in these threads.
Of these folks I think
Orinoco would be very dangerous as a quite one as he pulled it off masterfully before.
ArmyOfOne is a tricky bastard as he showed in the monty python game we just played.
St_Dysan tends to be low on the radar but actually seems to post quite a bit in his games, he will be off for a while and then be back on which could be a tricky Bob or just his posting style so he is a hard read for me.
Drazzil has joined a couple of games but not been posting much in any of them.
Schroeder, UsulofDoom, and Kraegor just fly completely under my radar, probably more my fault than theirs for not reading a variety of threads/forums, but I have no idea what to expect from them.
Please note that these are my "under the radar" picks. Picks like Kelric, who seems to get killed one way or the other every game, or Ralph-Wiggum, who seems to be a bad guy every game, do not count in that catagory.
My "obivously suspicious list" on which these guys would fall includes the rest of us not mentioned already save for J.D. who I am undecided about where to place. I think "under" but just feel like I see his name more than that.
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The alpha Fallen gets to hand-pick the other 3 fallen.Kraegor wrote:assuming that the game makers are properly using "randomness" to pick who is good/bad it's rather pointless to make suppositions about previous games except perhaps with regards to posting behavior.
Black Lives Matter
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
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By "oops" do you mean "I'm the Alpha and I forgot to pick the other 3"?Kraegor wrote:lol. oops!noxiousdog wrote:The alpha Fallen gets to hand-pick the other 3 fallen.Kraegor wrote:assuming that the game makers are properly using "randomness" to pick who is good/bad it's rather pointless to make suppositions about previous games except perhaps with regards to posting behavior.
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This is what I mean! Look at this. RW asks a question that would point out that he could not be alpha or one of the fallen by asking if they have been picked or is he using reveres psychology on us. Now Crux comes in quoting RW which would mean he's not the Alfa or one of the fallen or they could be in cahoots planning all this.Crux wrote:That is a good question. Anyone know the answer?Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Am I right in believing that all the Fallen have been notified? Or has the alpha not chosen his Fallen yet?
Then there’s me pointing this out again which may put the radar on me!
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I'm just asking a question: I don't want to be composing a list of suspects if the Alpha hasn't even picked his fellow Fallen yet. If the Alpha hasn't chosen yet, he might see what we expect and do something different.
Secondly, I don't want to lynch someone I think is the Alpha Fallen if I'm going to be a fallen also (unless, of course, killing the Alpha Fallen right off the bat means that everyone but him wins).
Secondly, I don't want to lynch someone I think is the Alpha Fallen if I'm going to be a fallen also (unless, of course, killing the Alpha Fallen right off the bat means that everyone but him wins).
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or maybe u were so drunk last night when you picked your accomplices that you forgot who you picked and now yer just tryin to confuse everyone.Ralph-Wiggum wrote:I'm just asking a question: I don't want to be composing a list of suspects if the Alpha hasn't even picked his fellow Fallen yet. If the Alpha hasn't chosen yet, he might see what we expect and do something different.
Secondly, I don't want to lynch someone I think is the Alpha Fallen if I'm going to be a fallen also (unless, of course, killing the Alpha Fallen right off the bat means that everyone but him wins).
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+1Kraegor wrote:or maybe u were so drunk last night when you picked your accomplices that you forgot who you picked and now yer just tryin to confuse everyone.Ralph-Wiggum wrote:I'm just asking a question: I don't want to be composing a list of suspects if the Alpha hasn't even picked his fellow Fallen yet. If the Alpha hasn't chosen yet, he might see what we expect and do something different.
Secondly, I don't want to lynch someone I think is the Alpha Fallen if I'm going to be a fallen also (unless, of course, killing the Alpha Fallen right off the bat means that everyone but him wins).
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Careful with those RWs. We have Remus West and Ralph Wiggum in this game.UsulofDoom wrote:This is what I mean! Look at this. RW asks a question that would point out that he could not be alpha or one of the fallen by asking if they have been picked or is he using reveres psychology on us. Now Crux comes in quoting RW which would mean he's not the Alfa or one of the fallen or they could be in cahoots planning all this.Crux wrote:That is a good question. Anyone know the answer?Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Am I right in believing that all the Fallen have been notified? Or has the alpha not chosen his Fallen yet?
Then there’s me pointing this out again which may put the radar on me!
Black Lives Matter
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
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I'm not trying to cause confustion - I just want to know if the Alpha Fallen has chosen his fellow Fallen, yet. In most games of this type, the Alpha chooses after the first day/lynching. But there was nothing in Chaosraven's description of the game that said specifically if the Alpha chooses his group right away or after the first day.
P.S. If I was a fallen, I would definitely not be bringing this much attention to myself.
P.S. If I was a fallen, I would definitely not be bringing this much attention to myself.
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That's why I asked the question.Kelric wrote:But if it's after the first day, you don't know if you're a Fallen yet. So you could still wind up one. So now you're just screwing yourself.Ralph-Wiggum wrote:P.S. If I was a fallen, I would definitely not be bringing this much attention to myself.
Plus, after all this, there's no way the Alpha will be picking me.
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Don't forget that we only have until 10 PM Eastern to make our choice.
Personally, I'd love to vote off Drazzil, but I think he may be harmless; his lack of being around the game would only slow things down.
Otherwise, the lists of the laying low people is as good a place to start as any.
And really, if you're the seeker, the archangel, or the linked, PMing me would be wise.
Personally, I'd love to vote off Drazzil, but I think he may be harmless; his lack of being around the game would only slow things down.
Otherwise, the lists of the laying low people is as good a place to start as any.
And really, if you're the seeker, the archangel, or the linked, PMing me would be wise.
Hodor.
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Or me. Because l33t h4XX0rs can't be trusted.pr0ner wrote: And really, if you're the seeker, the archangel, or the linked, PMing me would be wise.
Black Lives Matter
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
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I forgot that we had the time deadline.pr0ner wrote:Don't forget that we only have until 10 PM Eastern to make our choice.
Personally, I'd love to vote off Drazzil, but I think he may be harmless; his lack of being around the game would only slow things down.
Otherwise, the lists of the laying low people is as good a place to start as any.
And really, if you're the seeker, the archangel, or the linked, PMing me would be wise.
Orinoco seems like as good a under the radar choice as any.
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