OONFL2kEleventyOne - Playoffs Ho!

moghedian · Post by **moghedian** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:58 pm

I'm in for an Ironman wager...

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:17 pm

It seems like my friends Rich and Jim are in again.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:37 am

Cool. Official signups starting real soon now.

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:21 am

this should be fun to watch again this year.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:46 am

Semaj wrote:this should be fun to watch again this year.

Or join.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:18 am

Just catching up. As far as missed weeks, if you went with the points thing I'd say give them 1 less than the worst score of the week. If you gave out 10 points and someone scored 6 that week they would have a double right to be annoyed (first at themselves then at the guy who scored better by skipping).

I like the relaxed lock idea best though. Of course I can see myself getting cocky and scoring negative due to overloading the locks......

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:46 am

Remus West wrote:I like the relaxed lock idea best though. Of course I can see myself getting cocky and scoring negative due to overloading the locks......

Me too. I'm thinking we should either have no change, or go for simply removing the lock limit (limit would remain in place for playoffs, however). Thoughts from folks who care, given those two options?

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:47 am

Vote no change.

Unlimited locks would be crazy.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:52 am

A lock limit requires a little more thought. There wouldn't be much point in removing it; how many people will potentially cap their max score at a lower ceiling than the person(s) they are chasing in the standings?

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:57 am

Jeff V wrote: how many people will potentially cap their max score at a lower ceiling than the person(s) they are chasing in the standings?

My guess is a lot. Locks 6-10 have a lower expected return than locks 1-5 (my estimation would be that the expected return is approximately 0). And if you spend some time analyzing stats, locks 1-5 don't have a very high expected return, either. Locks 11-16 have even less than 6-10. I think it'd be rare that folks just lock everything.

That said, my vote would likely be to leave things as they are, simply because I like the 5-lock limit.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:14 am

Zaxxon wrote:
Jeff V wrote: how many people will potentially cap their max score at a lower ceiling than the person(s) they are chasing in the standings?
My guess is a lot. Locks 6-10 have a lower expected return than locks 1-5 (my estimation would be that the expected return is approximately 0). And if you spend some time analyzing stats, locks 1-5 don't have a very high expected return, either. Locks 11-16 have even less than 6-10. I think it'd be rare that folks just lock everything.

That said, my vote would likely be to leave things as they are, simply because I like the 5-lock limit.

Maybe the leaders would be conservative...but the chases? I doubt it. They will try to get back in the hunt; and the risk is greater, many will fall further behind to the point that conservatism is not an option.

Do many people lock less than 5 now?

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:16 am

Jeff V wrote:Do many people lock less than 5 now?

Yes. A minority, but a significant one.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:19 am

Slight lean towards removing the lock limit, but I won't fight for it one way or the other. It makes things a bit more interesting and allows folks a chance to "go for broke" those last few weeks (can you imagine the stress in figuring out how many locks to use on Week 17 if you're close to the cutoff?), but like Zax points out, there's definitely a line of diminishing returns (based on my analysis after the first few seasons of OONFL, it was well after the first five picks, however — I had concluded that using all five picks, every week, was the only viable strategic option for folks trying to win the regular season pool).

I have to lodge a complaint for the topic title, however. This is definitely not OONFL2111!

Can't wait to get crankin'!

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:26 am

The Meal wrote:I have to lodge a complaint for the topic title, however. This is definitely not OONFL2111!

Indeed; I have an irrational love of the word 'eleventy-one' and couldn't pass up the opportunity [however silly] to employ it.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:22 pm

Stolen from the updated first post:

Update: Pre-season has begun, which means sign-ups are officially being accepted. To sign up, PM me and include the email address that you'd like to have added to the OONFL mailing list for the season, whether or not you'd like to add an Ironman entry alongside your regular entry, and let me know your preferred donation tranmittal option: PayPal or snail mail. I'll reply with appropriate instructions.
End Update

If you've got non-OOer friends who you think will be joining us, they can just email me if that's easier (make sure they include a handle for the pool roster), but ideally ask them to sign up here so they can join in on the conversation.

JC Anejo · Post by **JC Anejo** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:58 am

I would vote for leaving it as it is

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:32 pm

JC Anejo wrote:I would vote for leaving it as it is

Since we haven't gotten much in the way of clear preference to open it up, I'm leaning toward leaving it. If anyone feels strongly that we should try opening it up, now is the time to speak up.

Also, I plan to use the same tie-breakers as last year; make sure to submit these before Week 1:

1) Favre TDs this season
2) Team w/best reg-season record
3) Non-QB with most TDs

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:21 pm

Nice. So there's a 50% chance that the answer to #1 will be zero.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:25 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Nice. So there's a 50% chance that the answer to #1 will be zero.

Or so the Germans would have you believe.

moghedian · Post by **moghedian** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:06 pm

I'm in + the Ironman.

Last year I said I'd send a $10 scratch ticket to the winner of the Ironman. JC Anejo was the only one who took me up on my offer.....

I lost, I sent the ticket and he said he won $50. Imagine the winnings if EVERYONE signed up for an Ironman entry!

I'm just wondering what the wager should be this year? $10? $10 scratch ticket? $5 better than nothing?

This Ironman wager would be totally separate from the regular entries.

Meaning don't bother Zaxxon about Ironman wagers.

Unless your Ironman makes it to the playoffs, in which case, God Bless You....

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:02 am

Update: Sign-ups stand at 18 and counting. Keep em coming.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:45 pm

bizzzump

moghedian · Post by **moghedian** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:23 pm

As far as IronMan wagers go.... nobody else?

JC Anjeo...? Same as last year?

$10 ticket?

I hope to take the $50 this time!

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:27 pm

Time to get your payments in if you haven't yet done so. Here's my list of those paid up; if you're not on here and think you should be, shoot me an email or PM.

Paid:
Mr. Bob
Mr. Lem
StinkyCheeseman
BrideOfStinkyCheeseman
The Meal
Zaxxon
Theohall
Naednek
UJ
JC Anejo
WHEATON!!!
Moghedian
Moghedian IM
GamerIrv
GamerIrvIM
ChemNerd
RDog
Mitma

Expressed interest but not paid:
Isgrimnur
$iljanus
GuidoTKP
Jiffy
Remus West
Kurth
Soulbringer
Jeff V
Jeff V friend 1
Jeff V friend 2
Probably a few others I'm forgetting

Also, if you haven't yet expressed interest, there's still time to do so. The deadline is simply to be paid up before kickoff on 9/7.

GamrIrv · Post by **GamrIrv** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:28 pm

I'm in with an IM entry as well ^ ^ happy hunting.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:32 pm

GamrIrv wrote:I'm in with an IM entry as well ^ ^ happy hunting.

Yeah, you're in the list.

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:42 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Probably a few others I'm forgetting

A check covering Miss Taken and me was sent on Friday. You should receive it any day now.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:46 pm

Captain Caveman wrote:
Zaxxon wrote: Probably a few others I'm forgetting

A check covering Miss Taken and me was sent on Friday. You should receive it any day now.

I am a horrible person. How could I forget Miss Taken.

Are you playing this year?

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soulbringer · Post by **soulbringer** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:07 pm

Soon as my paypal money hits the account, I will send payment. Should be no later than Wednesday-Thursday this week.

soulbringer · Post by **soulbringer** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:40 pm

And Payment has been sent.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:32 pm

Received. As was GamerIrv's, CC, Miss Taken, and The Meal.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:23 pm

If you haven't yet sent in your sign-up fee (that's you, Isgrimnur, $iljanus, GuidoTKP, Jiffy, Remus West, Kurth by my list--correct me if mistaken), now's the time. Pre-season kicks off Real Soon Now!

gwartok · Post by **gwartok** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:47 pm

I thought I had expressed an interest but I haven't paid, can you pm the payment info to me Zax?

Thanks

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:52 pm

gwartok wrote:I thought I had expressed an interest but I haven't paid, can you pm the payment info to me Zax?

Thanks

Done!

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:53 pm

Sorry, was out all last week and didn't see your update. Send me the payment info as well.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:13 pm

Thanks for the reminder! I'll get on that tonight and here's a free bump for your thread. I figure the more people play, the bigger my winnings will be!

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:24 pm

$iljanus wrote:Thanks for the reminder! I'll get on that tonight and here's a free bump for your thread. I figure the more people play, the bigger my winnings will be!

That's the ticket!

In the way of further enticement, we have 21 entries paid up so far, and another 11 with payment on the way. Any of you sitting on the fence, get your rears in gear and join us. It's a blast. Lurkers welcome.

Jiffy · Post by **Jiffy** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:39 pm

I'll be paying sometime over the long weekend. Just haven't had the time to put together my IM entry, which I want to make sure I will have the time to do before actually paying for it.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:52 pm

Jiffy wrote:I'll be paying sometime over the long weekend. Just haven't had the time to put together my IM entry, which I want to make sure I will have the time to do before actually paying for it.

Don't worry; I think I speak for everyone when I say I don't mind if you pay and don't use it. We're really accommodating in this group.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:56 pm

$$$ has been sent via pay pal!