Octavious wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:40 pm
91 felonies and everyone is still circling the wagons around him. He really could just murder someone and it wouldn't matter.
Echo chambers.
Zero felonies, but millions of desperate Democrats who are so afraid of Trump that they'll make up a 91 false charges hoping that one will stick.
And that's been the message for years, and it is the only message they ever hear.
The Governor of Georgia lacks the power of the pardon, even for state crimes. They have a separate dedicated “pardon board” for that. But in the case of a RICO conviction, the board cannot recommend a pardon until after the mandatory minimum five year sentence has been completed.
Given that GOP had lost dozens of these fights in various courts across the states, one wonders what sort of "fake news" has Trump cooked up for the "press release" for this indictment. Guess we'll have to see!
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Popehat's second podcast this week on this topic is a must listen. They had a GA lawyer on and got some good information on GA law. Big takeaways - the trial is a LONG way off and the indictment stretched the law in ways that should make us very uncomfortable.
Oh, and it is not possible to pardon anyone in GA until 5 years after they complete their sentence. There is a medical provision for people over 62.5 years old, but it's generally used to prevent the prisons from having to pay for medical care.
stessier wrote:Popehat's second podcast this week on this topic is a must listen. They had a GA lawyer on and got some good information on GA law. Big takeaways - the trial is a LONG way off and the indictment stretched the law in ways that should make us very uncomfortable.
Oh, and it is not possible to pardon anyone in GA until 5 years after they complete their sentence. There is a medical provision for people over 62.5 years old, but it's generally used to prevent the prisons from having to pay for medical care.
Yeah, that podcast was an interesting listen for sure.
Under the terms of the "consent bond order" filed in court Monday afternoon, Trump agreed to the bond amount on charges that include racketeering, criminal conspiracy, criminal solicitation, filing false documents and making false statements.
The order was signed off on by Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee. The order, which was signed by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis and Trump's attorneys, says that Trump "shall perform no act to intimidate any person known to him or her to be a codefendant or witness in this case or to otherwise obstruct the administration of justice."
It also says the "Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature against the community or to any property in the community; The above shall include, but are not limited to, posts on social media or reposts of posts made by another individual on social media."
Zaxxon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:07 pm
So what happens when he violates it later today?
I don't know how courts work with money, but my hope is that a $200,000 bond means that they have access to Trump's funds and can slap additional fees onto him that he cannot contest.
Zaxxon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:07 pm
So what happens when he violates it later today?
I don't know how courts work with money, but my hope is that a $200,000 bond means that they have access to Trump's funds and can slap additional fees onto him that he cannot contest.
That’s not how it works. He buys a bond I. The amount of $200K. How much the bondsman charges depends on what he sees as the risk of a default.
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Zaxxon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:07 pm
So what happens when he violates it later today?
I don't know how courts work with money, but my hope is that a $200,000 bond means that they have access to Trump's funds and can slap additional fees onto him that he cannot contest.
That’s not how it works. He buys a bond I. The amount of $200K. How much the bondsman charges depends on what he sees as the risk of a default.
Or in Trumps case, Trump himself can simply post the 200K with the Clark of Courts. If he somehow violates the bond then the State can move to have his bond revoked and depending on the reasons can ask to have his bond forfeited to the state. The forfeit only usually happens when they abscond.
Chesebro asked for a speedy trial. Fani Willis says "OK, let's try everyone October 23!". The judge OKs the trial date just for Chesebro as of now, and Trump wants his case separated from everyone else.
In replacing Drew Findling with Steven Sadow, an Atlanta-based attorney whose website profile describes him as a “special counsel for white collar and high-profile defense,” Trump is adding an attorney who has previously challenged the state’s broad RICO law, under which Trump and his 18 co-defendants have been charged.
Sadow filed paperwork Thursday morning to formally represent the former president in the case.
A Trump source indicated that this was not about Findling’s performance, while another familiar with Sadow called him the “best criminal defense attorney in Georgia.” Trump’s other Georgia attorney, Jennifer Little, is expected to stay on the legal team and work with Sadow.
Defendant Mark Randall Meadows has asked this Court to remove his
criminal case from the Superior Court of Fulton County to the Northern District of
Georgia. Because the defendant faces charges that do not arise from conduct under
the color of his office, and because he can offer no plausible federal defense, the
State of Georgia respectfully requests that this Court remand the case to the Superior
Court of Fulton County.
The defendant is the former Chief of Staff to the President of the United
States, and his lack of care for the lawful scope of his official duties is a matter of
record. Federal law prohibits employees of the executive branch from engaging in
political activity in the course of their work....
The report concluded that, “[f]rom OSC’s perspective, the administration’s attitude
toward Hatch Act compliance was succinctly captured by then-Chief of Staff Mark
Meadows, who said during an interview that ‘nobody outside the Beltway really
cares’ about Trump administration officials violating the Hatch Act.”2
It is therefore unsurprising that the defendant now petitions this Court to
remove the prosecution of his pending criminal case, in which he stands accused of
participating in a criminal enterprise that conspired to overturn Georgia’s 2020
election in favor of Mr. Trump, invoking his status as a former federal officer. The
defendant’s indictment in this case results directly from his disregard for the lawful
scope of his official duties, a disregard which now forms the basis of his Notice of
Removal. Indeed, the defendant has now expressly stated that all of his relevant
conduct was impermissible political activity. Because the defendant was not acting
within the lawful scope of his federal authority during any of the activity described
in the indictment, and because he can offer no plausible federal defense for his
actions, the State of Georgia respectfully asks that removal not be permitted in this
case.
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