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That's easy. Move, if he has to.waitingtoconnect wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:23 am One wonders what Thomas will do when the other judges override the interracial marriage ruling of 1967. The wedding cake controversies started with interracial not same set marriage.
Honestly. Your frustration with the government is totally reasonable. That’s where it ends. What you just proposed is totally weird if not batshit nuts. How do you feel normal/reasonable proposing the US army purges the US government of ‘the dead wood’. Listen to yourself.
I think you should think about adding “I’m a stranger to reason” to your list of skills there.Drazzil wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:20 pm
I can drive really REALLY well. I'm a phenom at making a spectacle. I'm REALLY good at customer service. I know how to cook and bake commercially. I can scale recipes into formulas. I know all of what a nursing assistant can do. I can do dosages for medications. I am a decent writer. I know how to run projects. I can operate a pistol, I'm a decent shot, but I am not a front lines fighter.
Not legally, no. The military of course has a lot of guns and at least in theory could seize control of the government and tell people what to do by virtue of the guns (i.e. a military coup) but that's not something that they're allowed to do.
What about the US military rounding up anyone not white, straight, rich or christian? Obviously your picture device thingy is broken.Unagi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:56 amHonestly. Your frustration with the government is totally reasonable. That’s where it ends. What you just proposed is totally weird if not batshit nuts. How do you feel normal/reasonable proposing the US army purges the US government of ‘the dead wood’. Listen to yourself.
I don’t think I could picture a deeper national crisis than the US military rounding up democratically elected citizens for execution.
You know what? I think I will. Reason and being "reasonable" is how we got here.Unagi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:03 amI think you should think about adding “I’m a stranger to reason” to your list of skills there.Drazzil wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:20 pm
I can drive really REALLY well. I'm a phenom at making a spectacle. I'm REALLY good at customer service. I know how to cook and bake commercially. I can scale recipes into formulas. I know all of what a nursing assistant can do. I can do dosages for medications. I am a decent writer. I know how to run projects. I can operate a pistol, I'm a decent shot, but I am not a front lines fighter.
Yeah. I guess I'm what happens when someone who would normally be from the extremist right reads a lot of books, goes to college, looks at his earning and income potential and his skin tone and decides he better do his extreme"ing" from the other side of the fence.
That's where I live - we hit the big times! And to thinki missed it being in DC this weekend.
Just a reminder: you voted for Trump. You made your bed. Sadly, we also have to sleep in it.Drazzil wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:18 pmYeah. I guess I'm what happens when someone who would normally be from the extremist right reads a lot of books, goes to college, looks at his earning and income potential and his skin tone and decides he better do his extreme"ing" from the other side of the fence.
I wear that tag with pride.
Back on topic. I'm amazed that the riots aren't larger.
Just a reminder, the conditions for voting for Trump were created by people who would rather scapegoat and ignore large swaths of the population when it was clear they were in trouble.hepcat wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:24 pmJust a reminder: you voted for Trump. You made your bed. Sadly, we also have to sleep in it.Drazzil wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:18 pmYeah. I guess I'm what happens when someone who would normally be from the extremist right reads a lot of books, goes to college, looks at his earning and income potential and his skin tone and decides he better do his extreme"ing" from the other side of the fence.
I wear that tag with pride.
Back on topic. I'm amazed that the riots aren't larger.
Which lasted collectively for over two thousand years AFTER Caesar crossed the Rubicon. The USA as we know her is already gone, after a scant 260 years.waitingtoconnect wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:01 pm Military coups rarely end in a positive outcome. Just ask the Roman Empire and its successor the Byzantine Empire.
A military coup would mean American emperors.
Yup. You don't even need millions of people....many of these "deep red" states have surprisingly small margins. Move 200,000 Democrats to Wyoming and it turns deep blue permanently. You can get South Dakota for just 120,000. You can have Montana for just 100,000. And if you're willing to dig a little more, you can get Florida for just 500,000.Drazzil wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:16 pm Stupid question... What would happen if large swaths of Democrats who didn't like what the party was doing decided to pack up and move to the locales with "outsize representation" What if the progressive voices in the Democrat party decided to register as Republican in those areas? Wouldn't that essentially mean that the Republican strategy would be nullified?
Well, I suspect the bigger issue is that getting even "just" a few hundred thousand people to move for purposes of more efficient voting is never going to happen.Little Raven wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:14 pmYup. You don't even need millions of people....many of these "deep red" states have surprisingly small margins. Move 200,000 Democrats to Wyoming and it turns deep blue permanently. You can get South Dakota for just 120,000. You can have Montana for just 100,000. And if you're willing to dig a little more, you can get Florida for just 500,000.Drazzil wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:16 pm Stupid question... What would happen if large swaths of Democrats who didn't like what the party was doing decided to pack up and move to the locales with "outsize representation" What if the progressive voices in the Democrat party decided to register as Republican in those areas? Wouldn't that essentially mean that the Republican strategy would be nullified?
Of course, I suspect that you'd run into the problem that once someone moves to, say, South Dakota....their new environment may change their political orientation fairly quickly.
Unfortunately the system we live in is dependent on the police to maintain functioning society. They've been infiltrated and co-opted to serve commercial and political interests but they're all we have.
Note the tattoo, of course.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Sunday said she believes it's an "impeachable offense" for a Supreme Court justice to lie under oath.
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Ocasio-Cortez, speaking in an interview with NBC News' "Meet the Press," said she believes the court is facing a "crisis of legitimacy" and justices must face consequences if they lie under oath.
"If we allow Supreme Court nominees to lie under oath and secure lifetime appointments to the highest court of the land and then issue, without basis," she said, "we must see that through. There must be consequences for such a deeply destabilizing action and a hostile takeover of our democratic institutions."
"To allow that to stand is to allow it to happen," she continued. "And what makes it particularly dangerous is that it sends a blaring signal to all future nominees that they can now lie to duly elected members of the United States Senate in order to secure Supreme Court confirmations and seats on the Supreme Court."
I seriously doubt that.Little Raven wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:14 pm
Of course, I suspect that you'd run into the problem that once someone moves to, say, South Dakota....their new environment may change their political orientation fairly quickly.
That she believed what they said under oath is more telling of her than them. Hopefully lesson learned for next time, although it's likely too late now.Little Raven wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:58 am Time to impeach!Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Sunday said she believes it's an "impeachable offense" for a Supreme Court justice to lie under oath.
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Ocasio-Cortez, speaking in an interview with NBC News' "Meet the Press," said she believes the court is facing a "crisis of legitimacy" and justices must face consequences if they lie under oath.
"If we allow Supreme Court nominees to lie under oath and secure lifetime appointments to the highest court of the land and then issue, without basis," she said, "we must see that through. There must be consequences for such a deeply destabilizing action and a hostile takeover of our democratic institutions."
"To allow that to stand is to allow it to happen," she continued. "And what makes it particularly dangerous is that it sends a blaring signal to all future nominees that they can now lie to duly elected members of the United States Senate in order to secure Supreme Court confirmations and seats on the Supreme Court."
FWIW AOC's views on this are far from crazy. In theory if a justice makes a representation before the Senate and then is revealed to have lied, they could be prosecuted for perjury. Now a perjury case against anyone on those grounds would be incredibly difficult (and *especially* against a sitting SCOTUS judge), but it's hard to avoid the conclusion that at least some of the more recently appointed justices (especially Kavanaugh) lied about their view of Roe v. Wade.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:27 amThat she believed what they said under oath is more telling of her than them. Hopefully lesson learned for next time, although it's likely too late now.Little Raven wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:58 am Time to impeach!Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Sunday said she believes it's an "impeachable offense" for a Supreme Court justice to lie under oath.
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Ocasio-Cortez, speaking in an interview with NBC News' "Meet the Press," said she believes the court is facing a "crisis of legitimacy" and justices must face consequences if they lie under oath.
"If we allow Supreme Court nominees to lie under oath and secure lifetime appointments to the highest court of the land and then issue, without basis," she said, "we must see that through. There must be consequences for such a deeply destabilizing action and a hostile takeover of our democratic institutions."
"To allow that to stand is to allow it to happen," she continued. "And what makes it particularly dangerous is that it sends a blaring signal to all future nominees that they can now lie to duly elected members of the United States Senate in order to secure Supreme Court confirmations and seats on the Supreme Court."
