That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
https://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/
https://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98141
I think that's part of it and also international travel might have been involved. A lot of people have been saying to not focus on the "state's line" stuff though for exact point you are making here. It is a problem for him in a lot of different ways.
That guy and the firm are going to be busy. Gaetz is probably lucky to get in early....malchior wrote:That's interesting...
Dude thinks he’s some kind of a martyr for paying for sex.
The first thing some of the women were asked to do when they got to the house parties in the gated community in suburban Orlando was to put away their cellphones, according to two women in attendance who spoke to CNN in recent days. The men inside, a who's who of local Republican officials that often included Rep. Matt Gaetz, did not want the night's activities documented.
The partygoers, at times dressed in formal wear from a political event they'd just left, mingled and shared drugs like cocaine and ecstasy. Some had sex.
Gaetz, the brash Republican, liked to discuss politics, said one of the women. He behaved like a "frat type of party boy," she said, sometimes taking pills she believed were recreational drugs.
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One of the women said she received money from Greenberg after some of the parties. She said that some of the payments were for providing sex but would not say who she slept with. She did say she never received money directly from Gaetz.
Some of the parties were more low-key affairs, the other woman said. Some took place in hotel suites at the end of alcohol-filled political functions.
"No one ever wants to stop partying, stop drinking, once you've had a few glasses of champagne in you," she said.
Before the feds got involved in late 2019 or early 2020, Greenberg had already been on the radar of local law enforcement — for, among other things, allegedly misusing public funds, handing lucrative and unnecessary contracts and state jobs to friends and allies, and impersonating a police officer, pulling over a woman for speeding using a badge and lights on his private vehicle.
But local police did not start investigating Greenberg until, according the a federal indictment, he tried to derail a GOP primary challenger, prep school music teacher Brian Beute, by sending his school a fraudulent note claiming Beute had carried on an inappropriate sexual relationship with a student. Beute roped in a lawyer acquaintance, David Bear, who convinced the sheriff's office that whoever was behind the smear campaign had committed a crime. Bear also successfully encouraged the sheriff's office to seek help from the feds, the Post reports.
"When authorities arrested Greenberg and sifted through his electronic records and devices — according to documents and people involved in the case — they discovered a medley of other alleged wrongdoing, leading them to open an investigation of possible sex trafficking involving a far more high-profile Florida Republican," Gaetz, the Post reports. Beute thought about dropping the matter after local investigators cleared him of having sex with a student, but "he decided not to," Bear told the Post. "All of these other things mushroomed out of that one decision for him to stand tall."
It possibly isn't illegal. I don't know if anyone ever contemplated making it illegal to sell a pardon. Someone might be able to take an existing law into consideration and twist it but anyone's guess what you'd go after. Stone wasn't a public official and unless say ... Trump was soliciting it via Stone it wouldn't be bribery.
Yeah, I'm not an expert in this area of law, but this seems akin to hiring Stone as a lobbyist. There might be some rules and regulations around that, but just hiring someone connected (but who is not a government official) to try to get you a pardon doesn't seem illegal on its face.malchior wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:12 pmIt possibly isn't illegal. I don't know if anyone ever contemplated making it illegal to sell a pardon. Someone might be able to take an existing law into consideration and twist it but anyone's guess what you'd go after. Stone wasn't a public official and unless say ... Trump was soliciting it via Stone it wouldn't be bribery.
I think you're right. This is just another one of those unwritten rules of democracy that Trump and his Ilk are more than happy to break because it's not illegal. Walk as close to the line as possible without going over it, ethics be damned, morals be damned, the country be damned.ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:43 amYeah, I'm not an expert in this area of law, but this seems akin to hiring Stone as a lobbyist. There might be some rules and regulations around that, but just hiring someone connected (but who is not a government official) to try to get you a pardon doesn't seem illegal on its face.malchior wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:12 pmIt possibly isn't illegal. I don't know if anyone ever contemplated making it illegal to sell a pardon. Someone might be able to take an existing law into consideration and twist it but anyone's guess what you'd go after. Stone wasn't a public official and unless say ... Trump was soliciting it via Stone it wouldn't be bribery.
So based on that it looks like Gaetz will be our next president.Skinypupy wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:12 pm New story just dropped...and it’s a doozy. Got a little bit of everything: MMF threesomes, coke use, sex workers given no show jobs and paid by the government, etc.
very nicely lays out the mindset we're dealing with hereThe U.S. Secret Service, which initiated the Greenberg investigation over allegations that Greenberg used county resources to mine Bitcoin
Paywalled for me. I assume the gist is above, but is there more to it as well?Skinypupy wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:12 pm New story just dropped...and it’s a doozy. Got a little bit of everything: MMF threesomes, coke use, sex workers given no show jobs and paid by the government, etc.
Walk-outs; lol. Like, what did they think they were signing up for? Demolishing democracy's ok, but Matt Gaetz is coming? Better GTFO.Holman wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 5:38 pm Gaetz spoke at a GOP event in Ohio today. Of course he got applause from the hardcore MAGAs, but there were also many walk-outs when he took the stage, and several prominent speakers cancelled when they learned he was on the program.
Trumpian audacity might be harder to pull off than it looks.
Gaetz still serving on multiple committees.Reuters: JOEL GREENBERG, ASSOCIATE OF REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN MATT GAETZ, PLEADS GUILTY TO SEX TRAFFICKING OF 17-YEAR-OLD GIRL, OTHER CRIMES -COURT HEARING
Joel Greenberg, a former tax collector in Florida's Seminole County, pleaded guilty to six charges, including sex-trafficking of a minor, at a court hearing in federal court in Orlando, Florida.
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Greenberg's lawyer, Fritz Scheller, indicated his client would cooperate if prosecutors sought information from him about Gaetz, telling reporters, "He will honor his plea agreement."
In a document filed in court on Friday, Greenberg said he would cooperate with federal prosecutors and admitted to introducing the minor he trafficked to other adult men who engaged in sex acts with the minor in Greenberg's presence, court papers showed. The papers did not identify the other adult men.
Perpetually high looking guy? Totally. DeSantis has the same perma-squint. Maybe part of Florida’s atmosphere is made up of pot smoke.Alefroth wrote:I'm confident we can rely on Gaetz for a yes vote for marijuana legalization.
